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datahell
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Re: Illeagal selling of Elxis
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Reply #30 on:
July 07, 2007, 13:27:30 »
Due to such idiots, that do not respect ours and yours free and hard work open source can be ended. We (GO UP) do not have any problem unpublishing Elxis (as it was unpublished till october 2006) if they do not respect the license, you will have. So, it is in yours hands to hunt these people down.
I ask you:
Do you want Elxis to be unpublished?
Do you want to publish a limited edition while the full edition will stay only in our possession?
Do you want to remove advanced features from Elxis?
Do you want all new features to be commercial addons?
I create now an advanced SEO mechanism. Do you want this mechanism included in Elxis or as an encrypted commercial addon?
Do you want to add product validation and encrypted parts into Elxis?
Do you want to be able to download Elxis for free without registration or subscription?
Do you want Elxis 2007 to be published?
I must admit that we are thinking these days of creating 2 versions for Elxis, a limited public one and a full featured private one only for our use. Do not force us to do this. Do not also force us to add lock mechanisms inside Elxis 2007+!
Note: Dispite if we finally publish the Elxis next version or not, Elxis 2007+ will be very hard to be stolen as it will be a very-very-very unique CMS. We have implement in it, things that simple do not exist anywhere. They will have to study it for a year to understand how it works and till then we will have publish a new version!
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Re: Illeagal selling of Elxis
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Reply #31 on:
July 07, 2007, 14:35:48 »
Quote from: datahell on July 07, 2007, 13:27:30
Do not also force us to add lock mechanisms inside Elxis 2007+!
Do so...
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Re: Illeagal selling of Elxis
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Reply #32 on:
July 07, 2007, 14:44:25 »
I know him/it how it feels it to see "stolen" his own job, purtroppoal person in matter does him for habit/custom .
if you will want to act for by legal against this person I can furnish where you the data and email it speaks of his of elxis.
Do you want Elxis to be unpublished?
NO
Do you want to publish a limited edition while the full edition will stay only in our possession?
NO
Do you want to remove advanced features from Elxis?
NO
Do you want all new features to be commercial addons?
NO
I create now an advanced SEO mechanism. Do you want this mechanism included in Elxis or as an encrypted commercial addon?
NO
Do you want to add product validation and encrypted parts into Elxis?
NO
Do you want to be able to download Elxis for free without registration or subscription?
NO
and
YES
Do you want Elxis 2007 to be published?
YES
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Ivan Trebješanin
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Re: Illeagal selling of Elxis
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Reply #33 on:
July 07, 2007, 15:06:58 »
Hi all,
1. I always say Elxis needs to have more local communities (Italy, France, Spain...). In that case, the thiefs could be easily put to the wall of shame, wich would cost them more then just legal punishment (money).
2. You should expose the url here, so everyone can see who did it, and do what he can to act against him.
3. If WE, the users of Elxis, don't accept our little share of responsability... well, everyting is uselless.
Example
: Someone buys you a beer, then again, and again... if you don't offer to buy him one round, he will evetually stop doing it (and you'll be out of beer
).
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Re: Illeagal selling of Elxis
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Reply #34 on:
July 07, 2007, 15:29:05 »
http://forum.mambo-foundation.org/showthread.php?t=5492&highlight=elxis
"Stiamo anche valutando l'idea di creare un nostro fork tutto italiano che riunisca le migliori caratteristiche di Mambo ed Elxis che a differenza delle versioni 4.6.x non soffra dei problemi di incompatibilità verso i componenti più vecchi ma anche questo dipende dal tempo che ci resterà a disposizione a causa degli impegni presi con CMSaccessibile"
" We are also appraising the idea to create one fork of ours all Italian that gathers the best characteristics of Mambo and Elxis that unlike the versions 4.6.x don't suffer from the problems of incompatibility toward the oldest components but also this has been depending for the time that it will stay us to disposition because of the appointments taken with CMSaccessibile "
http://groups.google.it/group/mamboitalia/browse_thread/thread/57e0781b33bf5899?hl=it
"Invece, il fork a cui mi riferivo è - ovviamente - un CMS GRATUITO che verrà rilasciato come al solito sotto licenza GNU/GPL e che intende:
- raccogliere l'eredità di Mambo (serie 4.5.x) apportando novità essenziali ed anche qualche buona soluzione (opportunamente adattata) già presente in altri CMS (quali ad esempio Elxis)"
google translat
"Instead, the fork to which I reported me is - obviously - a CMS Gratuito that you/he/she will be released as usual under license Gnu / GPL and that it intends:
- to pick up the inheritance of Mambo (series 4.5.x) bringing essential novelty and also some good present solution (opportunely adapted) already in other CMS (what for instance Elxis) "
the person is Giorgio Nordo
www.equal.it
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eliasan
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Re: Illeagal selling of Elxis
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Reply #35 on:
July 07, 2007, 16:17:46 »
Sorry to dissapoint you all, including myself, but remember that GNU/GPL allows forking if they keep reference to the original author and they release the fork again under the GNU/GPL license.
GNU/GPL was first introduced in 1984, inside the academic community. In an era that Internet, as we know it today, was not yet invented...
So the problem is not if they do it or not.
The problem is that GNU/GPL software in 2007, is been used in ways and for purposes not predicted. In 2007 it is used for business and by business. It is used for profit.**
Don't go far.
Count yourselfs. How many of you are using Elxis for doing business and how many for academic purposes?
So they, and perhaps others in the future will try to achieve a better placement in their market by having their own CMS.
My advice, business speaking, is don't do it. You have more to gain by using a GNU/GPL tool, than by developing, supporting and promoting your GNU/GPL tool.
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**This is not a complete analysis of the current conflict between GNU/GPL license spirit and the real world. It is just a tiny scratch on the surface.
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