IOSR Hotels v2.3

[juanon]

Hi,

Thanks but...  I wish it could be that easy.

I have spoken about IOSR to several channel manager companies, they only work with its own booking engine... Do you know one that can make the job?

Any help will be very welcome.

Thanks a lot

[wieyoga]

Hi @Juanon,

Please contact
Rategain or STAAH Channel Manager.

Normally they will asking fee for the integration & the cost is not cheap 

[datahell]

Once I was very close to develop a connection with myallocator. They have a very good API. I have to say that it is not my business to develop such connections with third parties (*) as it is a very custom job. I have developed an API and you can use this API as a tool to connect to ANY third party services. Also note that the easier integration method IOSR Hotels provides you are the PUSH URLs.

* Note: Especially booking.com is a very "closed" service. I believe they don't really want connections with other systems, they want to get all the customers to their site.

[juanon]

Hi Datahell,

I tried Wieyoga advices with no luck.

I dont know how companies can deal with booking.com... But there are hundreds of them that offer its own channel managers... How the hell they get an API?

Myallocator can be a aceptable solution but... What problems did you find trying to develop a connection with them?

Could you please reconsider coding it for all iosr users, please? Im sure many of us are willing to pay again for a new version that can save our business, you are the only one we can trust to do the job, you are the man that completely knows IOSR system.

Please think about it...

Thanks a lot

[MangPutra]

Iam 100% agree with juanon
i also ask to make custom development for this features api with channel manager but its seem no chance to do that.
After 1 year using this booking system all the hotel owner do not want to  UPDATE their availbility anymore.

[datahell]

I develop a full featured standalone booking system, this is what you bought. I am not responsible for services provided by third parties. If you need customizations, special styling, connections with third parties, custom payment options, or anything not included in IOSR, you pay a developer and does these for you. Some things costs a lot of money and take time to be developed. You cannot make business without investing money. IOSR costs really low but this does not mean that you can have a site like booking.com with 175 EUR! If you want to do serious business raise your budget and hire some professionals. IOSR is written in PHP. A serious developer can work just fine with it even if he see it for the first time! If someone tells you the opposite then either he is an amateur or you pay him too less. If for example you tell me to do something for you that will take me 1 week to complete and you pay for this job 50 EUR I will tell you no, not because I can't do it, but because I dont want to spend so much time for something that will give me 50 EUR. 50x4 = 200EUR, no a good monthly salary, dont you agree?

[juanon]

Ok, your posiition is totally clear and I respect it, of course.

Just there is one thing I dont like in your words:

- I know how much a business takes in time and money and I agee with that.
- I know how much a developer should earn and I agree with that too.

I chose IOSR because of its stability and suport not because of its price, if your business can give you the oportunity to earn a living it doesnt really matters that the system you use costs 200 or 2000. Of course I know such a great improvement (channel manager) wont be free or even cheap.

I love Elxis and IOSR but sadly the hotel marketing is changing very fast and what it worked yesterday is not working today, believe me, I deal with hoteliers everyday. I just wonder how some (really bad) component in joomla and wordpress can have a channel manager, again Im not talking about money although some of them are really cheap but just with a few of the features IOSR has.

Before asking you anything I had tried to contact some developer to create a channel manager for me... I had no luck.

Im so sorry if my words have bothered you, AGAIN: I LOVE YOUR WORK, and Im sure you will work in your own channel manager someday because business demands it. Im sad for having to look for an IOSR alternative (that Im sure wont work so good) and teach my customers a new system.

If there is a developer reading this that can do de job,  please contact me. I never consider me as a stingy person, it is not the issue here.

Regards.

[datahell]

Three things. 1. A channel manager integration can have many levels, someone may say that by writing 10 lines of code he has a channel manager integration but he hasn't. 2. Which joomla component are you talking about? 3. Currently I work on Elxis 4.5 and after I will go on vacations. We can discuss an IOSR update in 1-2 months.

[webgift]

If you allow me...
I don't think that you've been called as stingy. @datahell just wrote you that IOSR Hotels
is a booking engine nothing more or less. Each time he performs an update process he receives
a number of requests that addressed to the booking engine only. 

However you've requested for CM.
Channel manager is something different as connect several booking engines so you have an
implementation with third parties. This has nothing to do with an idea of standalone software.

Beside of that there is one other thought:
If channel manager feature will theoretically be included to the IOSR software. Do you ask
if other customers of IOSR wants to pay the difference for this feature? When you offer
something to public then you need to consider the benefit of many.

So i think that CM is consist of an extra feature for a standalone booking engine so it must
be charged as an extra. I think that there are a huge number of skilled PHP developers that
you could hire.

P.S:
@datahell i read vacations... is this a new extension or [1]? Ahahaha!

[1]: http://tinyurl.com/hp5dsdu [image file]

[juanon]

Dear friends,

First of all I don´t want anybody to get angry with this.

Datahell is a great developer always willing to help and also you, Webgift, that give us your time helping here in the Elxis forums almost everyday. I very much appreciate that.

Of course I know what I´m asking for, It is something different to a new feature, perhaps not everybody needs it right now (althoug the business is moving that way) and I know It would have a new price... that´s right!!

Almost any booking engine has some kind of channel manager nowadays because that is what hoteliers want. Some of them offer its own connection,  other just an integration with a channel manager company. I leave here some examples:

FOR JOOMLA & WORDPRESS
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- Goreserva (although it seems to be hacked, had cloud PMS and channel manager)
- Jomres (that I hate) has a connection with beds24.com, something similar to myallocator I guess.
- Vik booking has Vik Channel manager.

STANDALONE ONES
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- http://www.neobookings.com
- http://www.reservadealojamientos.com/es/ar/138/motor-de-reservas-con-channel-manager.html
- https://avirato.com/channel-manager/

Regards

[fbookin]

Hello everybody.I want to say that I agree with datahell. Good php programmer can make creat integration to channel manager. I have a company in Russia and creat integration to channel manager travelline.I can say what should be done to create a separate synchronization and add to iosr reservation to notification.

[datahell]

@juanon: No one gets angry, we make a civilized discussion. From the links you posted I can't talk about the standalone solutions because their pages are in Spanish. Goreserva, as you said, most probably hacked. Jomres uses a third party service (beds24.com) which is like myallocator, although I believe myallocator has a much better API and documentation. I dont know what "Vik Channel manager" is, I can discuss only for solutions based on public and well documented APIs. So only Jomres has something like the one you want. My personal opinion is that it doesn't look good.

Also my opinion on the whole subject is that the hoteliers don't want channel managers because they are expensive but they are forced to use them. Do you know how much fee booking.com takes on a reservation? Do you think there is even 1 hotelier that likes paying such fees?

Now, does anyone knows how much these third parties charge to connect your ROOM with a site like booking.com? Be careful, they charge per room. How exactly you will make a deal with them for an IOSR installation with hotels owned by multiple people? Have you ever talked to any of these third parties about how such an integration can be achieved? Have they ever told you a price? I would like to see a price offer for an IOSR site with just 10 hotels having 100 rooms in total.

[juanon]

Hi Datahell,

Sadly I can´t answer these questions.

It is true they are forced to work with booking.com and also to pay a channel manager.

But trying to compete with booking.com (or other big ones) with SEO is nowadays totally impossible.

So hoteliers assume the price, I can tell you I have been speaking with several hoteliers last week to bring them to my system and they refuse because they "don´t want to set some rooms here and others there"... they simply preffer to pay more and forget about headaches and overbooking... that is the situation.

Channel Managers are not cheap so if you create your own it can be a very profitable business.

I continue searching for a developer before I give up and using other system, but it seems everyting related to OTA connections is a big secret... I can´t understand that.

Regards

[datahell]

........it seems everything related to OTA connections is a big secret... I can´t understand that.

This is the most important thing you said. You just begun understanding whats happening...

[fbookin]

I have documentation for integration ios reservation and channel manager.I can help with the iteration