Illeagal selling of Elxis

[fraud]

Dear all,
I'm really sorry to announce that the persian translators of elxis (Farhad Sakhaei, Reza Faghihi and Navid Raiesi ) have been commited fraud in distributing the Elxis open source CMS as an Commercial renamed Mitra Professional (for 3800$) and another fake name Professional Site Builder (for 6100 $).
bellow you can find the persian store they run and represent Elxis as mentioned fake named commercial CMS.
http://www.foroshgah.net/

History:
This team started their unlawful activities by selling Mambo with the fake name of ZANBAGH (for 3200$).They claimed ZANBAGH is an fully persian written and supported Portal. By encountering  lots of complaints by customers and lack of claimed support , the ZANBAGH team disappeared for awhile and reorganized them by starting another illegal project named Mitra Farsi.Doing some RTL changes for Joomla templates was the only difference between Joomla! and Mitra Farsi.They Started selling Mitra to private and Governmental organizations (for around 4000$) . The same story , but this time for Mitra Farsi . Intensive complaints by customers , Being hacked times and times and lack of claimed support  accured again and again as their last illeagal project Zanbagh.
They Started fixing Mitra Farsi's bugs by presnting Mitra Universal. Their unsuccessful try on Mitra Universal made them looking for something simillar but better functioned.
Please don't bother : They found Elxis at last

[Reza Faghihi]

Dear Fraud
Do you even know me boy Huh mitra is opensource cms and mr blavardi is the prjoect developer and  i just a forum modrator in mitra i dont have any bussines with mitra team and mitra based on joomla not elxis and about zanbagh its project that do not related to mitra and any other like mr balvardi it mr balvardi just translate it for the company named VCD (virtual content development) and it distrbuted by Abduolahh Abasiyoon not me or farhad
Please understand what are you saying then start just to tell lies think only on moment before saying dozen of words
this is my tel number +989125208474 if you could prove your word that i sell or rename any open source CMS  i will change my name to anjelina julie
its very important for me to hear your reply please post your answer beacuse it is not fair to talk about me or farhad when you dont even know us and if really serious about your slef why you dont use the real name here guy please tell us your real name
good luck and have fun
and stop spamming on the forum this behavior of yours show what is your personality

[Ivan Trebješanin]

... if you could prove your word that i sell or rename any open source CMS  i will change my name to anjelina julie...

Hi reza,

I are you going to change just the name, or you are going to make the boobs too? 

Hey look, don't even bother to answer accusations like the above. It's good marketing after all...

We all respect your work, and who cares about the guy who doesn't even leave a contact....

greets, and have fun

[Reza Faghihi]

thanks jazzman
time will proves who is right and if i changed to angelia julie be sure that your the frst person that i will call for and i will also break up with brad

[Ivan Trebješanin]

Great... 

Off topic:
I've just noticed that you look very alike my wife's brother... My wife is palestinian, btw.

[Farhad Sakhaei]

me ? 
i didn't have any relation with mitra until now , even i didn't use their packages and etc 
even i didn't meet reza faghihi until now , anybody know me and reza acquainted in this great site , and navid reisi , even i didn't see any post of him in this site , then you say we commited fraud? 
even i didn't start any web site with ELXIS , if i want to start any site , the fisrt will be a persian cummunity to offer this great system to my peoples and help them with only persian ELXIS name that it will have direct relation with this great site, because without it , i think it will not have any growth 

i think reza know gpl/gnu license and how to use it and he doesn't go another way too
then please be careful in your telling of your discussions , and be opening verse

posting your discussions in all forums and together with many post display your bad targets...

if we had any development in ELXIS we had offer them in this site without any dificiency and we offering them now and in future
if we had any target to Fraud with ELXIS , we didn't offer any of them in this site
then please speak fair and with full information 
i audit your posts and i want other forum moderators to audit your post , because you play with iranians prestige , iranians play fair but you are not a fair iranian
good luck

[datahell]

I speak on behalf of the Elxis Core Team.

We know about Mitra and we know that some Iranians (including Farhad) had purposes to build a CMS based on an existing Open Source CMS (Elxis included) inorder to sell it. There was n't a reason to spam the whole forum with this message. We want to give people a chance to participate in Elxis project and learn from it. Elxis can not be stolen because it is in our minds and hearts, not inside the code. I think that they have understand it, and we want all people to participate in the project.

It is not illegal to sell products or services based on Elxis but it is illegal to sell Elxis or any CMS based on Elxis (this also applies for Mambo and Joomla). It must be under the GNU/GPL license. Also Elxis contains some copyrighted features. We legaly protect these features to prevent such actions in order to stay always free. Farhad has been lately added to Elxis Team as a test member. This is a goodwill movement by us. We expect the other part to do the same and till now Farhaz (and Reza) have been proved really genltemen.

Note: If Reza or Farhad or anyone else at any time breaks the GNU/GPL license or (most important for us) the Elxis Team ethical laws he will regret it. If anyone ever try to steal Elxis he better change planet.

For me case is closed.

[Reza Faghihi]

Hi
Dear datahell im agree with you and know im leaving in the country that still do not approved copyright Law (IRAN)
It mean if i break any license the government dont care  and it is not hard for me to sell elxis But My question is why i should do this and why People like fraud talk about somthing that they do not know
1- im not related in anyway with mitra team im just the memebr of the forum and as i have some experience of writing components for joomla and mambo they offered me 2 write some components for them and i had written about 10 commercial component for joomla till know and non of them was opensource and i do that work for mr balavardi not the mitra team . they asked me to be the forum moderator and tehy made my account moderator in they  forum but if you have vistited there i dont post any thing in past 3 month because i dont care about mitra and  i dont to talk about that here any more cause i think this could be advertisement for them
2- in past 3 month  i have focused on 3 project one of them is elxis and i spend my times to understand its changes and tried to port somecoponent and know im writing some copmonent based on elxis to use on my personal web site www.gnuteams.com
and here is my site you could see that i do not break any law here www.pars-ref.com
3- And about elxis i think that the project all people could love and till know its best solution for Unicode languages like Persian and developers really care about the community thats what i love about elxis .
4- i found who had post this topic he is one the members of mambolearn Community the official persian translators of mambo and they always had problem with mitra and when they saw name of navid here they started to act like this and i really believe that they dont know me and farshad today i talked by phone with farshad for the first time and it seems he also been shocked by this news
5- please do not waste our time and elxis community and developers by this craps try to participate and help to extend community of elxis
6-as i first time saw elxis i really like it and i registered some domains just to participate in the project
www.elxispersian.com
www.elxiscms.com
www.elxislearn.com
mr fraud if you really care about open source tell and if you want i tarnsfer this domains for you to start work on elxis and extend it
at the end i thank John for his patience
and i ask mr fraud act like that cause this is just waste of his time also ours 

[fraud]

Dear datahell,
I wrote that note not to spam but to inform .
You said you know about mitra so why don't you try on their Professional version fakely named Professional Mitra they are selling for 3800$ ?
you mentioned you talk on behalf of the Elxis Core Team, So its easy to find out If I'm right or wrong .
Just Test Mitra Professional you find exactly Elxis but a new Right to Left Template .
I also let you know that  the Farsi tarnslated files here for Elxis is a copy of Farsi Formal Mambo Support Site in IRAN with a little changes these guys made.
These guys have such history on re-translating!!!! Nuke, MODX .......
You can find lots of condemnation of this group's (MITRA)  illegal activities on the largest & oldest Persian forum (majidonline) http://www.forum.majidonline.com/showthread.php?t=69298&page=8
Although it seems that when Mr Farhad Sakhaei   involved in this tragic collaboration had no information about the history of other guys working for Mitra

[Reza Faghihi]

hey Mr
i dont see answer to my questions you just post the same thing again mr fraud

and i think you talking about farhad yes he retranslating MODX and Nuke but he dont break any copyright law all of his translations was opensource what are you talking about man
and abou majid online What the forum ADMIN (MAJID) says that you are wrong but you still repeat your mistake this is not good manner and i want to know what are you talking about farhad involved in what and about translation its is not even similar mambo is not multilingual and even dont have admin language we do all translation by our selves and any blind can see the differences i believe that you are have meaning of this words you have benefit to tell such lies  and i dont know how
please for gods sake do not trash this community like your Persian mambo community this forum is not for saying this kind of crap if you want come on and start to work not destroy im really sorry that you are still cant understand what we are looking for
Regards
Reza Faghihi   

[Reza Faghihi]

and again i say persian translation is not in any way related to mitra all works done by me and farhad and in the latest language file the navids translations also had been removed

[datahell]

The Elxis frontend language is 90% similar with Mambo's for compatibility reasons (Elxis 2006.0 dev [alpha] has been based on Mambo 4.5.3), so it is natural to be almost the same. The Elxis backend language or the Elxis XML language (personal work of mine and eliasan) does not exist in any other CMS, so the persian translation is 100% work that Reza and Farhad did just for Elxis (I also know this because I watched the various stages of translation till they complete it). Also note these:

Elxis frontend language: 6 files, 37 KB
Elxis backend language: 36 files, 205KB (totally Reza's and Farhad's translation)

Now, IF Elxis has been used as a base for a non GNU/GPL software package, even if this package is for intranet usage, people they did it they brake the Elxis license. There are ways we can be informed about this. Note also this: even if it is not illegal in Iran it is illegal in Greece, in Europe and the most civilized world and it is a theft. It is like stealing a car, change it's color and present it as yours.

Elxis has many ways to protect it self against these attempts. I list bellow some possible ways and tell me if you want Open Source software to become like this:

- Software locks.
- Blocking whole countries from accessing elxis.org
- Stop publishing Elxis. We have said it again in the past: we dont care if no one ever download Elxis again. We build it mostly for our usage (that's why we create a CMS that we love to use) and we can keep it again private as we did for 10 months till October 2006.
- Notify open source community, gnu.org, open source software foundations and the law about the illegal activity.
- Notify Iranian empasy for the illegal activity .
- Track down and report sites that use stolen software. (It is very easy for us to understand if a site is Elxis or based on Elxis. Elxis has many unique features).
- Notify ISP providers and domain hosters for these sites.
- Make these sites life hard.

[eliasan]

I ask anyone that has proofs, and he can justify what he is saying with facts (in a language we can understand), to send them to us.

Otherwise, this whole discussion cannot stand.

 

[PHPX]

I ask anyone that has proofs, and he can justify what he is saying with facts (in a language we can understand), to send them to us.

Otherwise, this whole discussion cannot stand.

 

Dear datahell & eliasan
This site is one of the illegal use of elxis as Mitra Enterprise !!!
 => http://www.mediafestival.ir

Look at this: www.mediafestival.ir/administrator

since last night in this page we could read this:
Mitra Enterprise Edition
and now .. they change it to this:
MediaFestival Administrator
Powered by MediaFestival !!!!

they abhored : ) )

[PHPX]

Dear datahell & eliasan
Look at this: www.mediafestival.ir/administrator
& now look at google cache :
http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:3gr9Io9O6_4J:www.mediafestival.ir/administrator/+site:http://www.mediafestival.ir/administrator/&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1