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Community => Elxis 2008.x Olympus (dev) => Topic started by: rentasite on March 22, 2007, 09:01:30
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Can we post in this topic, what we like to see included in Elxis 2007 (Vampire)?
If yes, lets start posting. If no, mods plz delete this topic :)
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Of course!
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I would like to have an option to bypass sever's locales, as there are no two locales for Serbian (latin and cyrillic), and even further, they must be unicode. I've spent too much time translating elxis to both versions to let latin version go...
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Another great feature would be a Password Reminder or a capability to Reset your Password and im speeking about the Administration area.
I like the way, Kayako gives you the possibility to retrieve/reset your lost password. If you dont know it, i can explain the steps.
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user availability check when user try to register he can check the username is available or not in the system
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I think that all of us forgot one important feature... XHTML compilant HTML rendering. As I try to keep my templates XHTML and CSS valid, with cross-browser support, I would like to express that fact by displaying valid XHTML and CSS links on my pages, but currently I cannot do so due to Elxis HTML rendering.
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Everything that we modify for the needs of 2007 we also make it XHTML compliant. We do not change a file if there is no other reason because it will be too difficult for users to update too many files during an 2006.4 to 2007 update.
We also eliminate CSS or javascript (if any) errors.
An other invisible work that we do is reducing the unused space (like empty lines, tabs etc) inside the php pages. This leads to reducing Elxis size without removing anything.
So, this:
<td>
test
</td>
becomes:
<td>test</td>
XHTML compliant example:
this:
<input type="text" ....>
becomes this:
<input type="text" ... />
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Well... that's good news, because I'm a maniac when it comes to optimisation. ;)
Thanx
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I'd like to put some scarce wishes here:
1) Implementation of Session Counter (reverse) with a reset button/image whatever you like, the reset function is obvious i think :), this must be applicable in the admin area (which is global for every action conducted in the backend) and at the frontend while the user is logged in and especially when the user writes an article, how many times have you forgotten to press save or apply after typing more than the allowed session time? I've done this countless times (but i was taking a copy before pressing anything like save or apply...) however forgetting is a great issue...
2) More AJAX technology wherever it applies backend/frontend, I would like to see the lists being implemented in ajax (backend) especially sorting/filtering/selecting langs etc in the sorted lists, please give AJAX to the world :P
3) EXIF support for the stargallery ,EXIF are metadata for the pictures that are stored in every .jpg or .raw file and have numerous parameters from the snapshot environment/light/focus etc and can be used for optimizing the files, also EXIF is used from professionals in order to fine tune their cameras and fine tune the printing of photos. A subfeature of stargallery related to EXIF is to keep the metadata even after resizing the photo (non-destructive resizing). I believe that all these are dependent from the Image processing library used but the most respected should be adequate of handling this info.
4) Database migration tools in order to smoothly transition from Mambo/Joomla to Elxis, population of extra mandatory fields that didn't exist in Mambo/Joomla should be displayed as a list with dropdowns or type fields in order to be populated (at the migration procedure).
for the moment.....
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1)I would like to add in the wish list the "copy paste" to the autonomous pages.. (make multiple copies of one autonomous page through admin panel)
2)What about a SEO futured with the ability to change manual the name of the url addresses??
That's all from me. ;)
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I have spoken with eliasan about a mambot (RSS grabber).
The abilities which I have spoken eliasan about, are missing from all the other CMS, open source & commercial.
I have sent the basic version of this mambot to eliasan, as well as my suggestion about what could be develop to make this mambot unique. The mambot could be standard with Elxis or it could be an extra mambot (open source or commercial).
FTP tool, with browsing capability to view my folders.
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[E.W.D.E] Elxis Web Developer Edition with some extras, such as:
1. List of my Elxis installations
2. Data for my Elxis installations (comments)
3. Installation procedure to install Elxis into another server / hosting plan
4. FTP access for my Elxis installations
5. SSH explorer / access for my Elxis installations
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Thanks Sirigos for sharing your thoughts with us.
RSS grabber: The whole XML/RSS feature is problematic due to domit problems with utf-8 (ask BlackStar for this). Nothing new will be imported to Elxis until the RSS issue is solved.
File browser (FTP enabled) already exists in the File Server component. By unlocking the initial path you can manage all the sites files (even if they do not belong in Elxis). See attached screenshot.
There is a central list of Elxis installations available in Elxis Team members. We use it for solving users problems (each entry contains information for each Elxis site enviroment) and for statistically reasons. What exactly you want by having such a personal central list?
All the others you mentioned are quite risky regarding security. I had myself also thought in the past a tool that would allow Elxis sites to contact with each other in real time or leave messages (mostly for communication with the mother site - elxis.org). It is easy to implement but I gave it up for security reasons and because we finally don't need it :P
SSH: Use an SSH manager such as Putty, anything else is insecure.
Keep in mind that everything that has to do with remote access attracts hackers and if this access has also to do with files the security risk increases.
Note: Elxis already has all the needed tools to help you make your own tools/components for remote access via FTP. It is a matter of how you, use the provided tools.
Keep saying your proposals. It is very interesting for us.
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Hallo everybody.... It just crossed my mind... Are there some ideas on something like joomlaboard? I mean, it would really round up Elxis and give it some advantage regarding the "competition". I would, personally go for SMF, but lots of users don't want to deal with bridges, etc.
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At this time we are focusing on developement the main CMS and we can not deal with third party software. There will be many pleasant surpises in the new Elxis version. Anyone who wishes to make compatible joomlaboard with Elxis will have our help.
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Datahell, thank you for your answer.
Considering the RSS, I will contact BlackStar and I will ask him if I can support this issue.
About the FTP I only have to say it is a commercial component and I don’t know how many users have already bought it. The reason I said it is that it will make a difference, and that it is useful for the Elxis users.
Regarding the security reasons you have set, I feel that the Elxis developer team, always do the best, and the Defender of Elxis among other things proves it.
What I was thinking could be created was something like the WHM from the Cpanel Company.
Personal list of installations and some information that the user will need.
1. Welcome Page (central control panel)
2. List of my Elxis Installations
3. Setup new Elxis ( to local server or remote). With this we can use the HI-speed lines of the servers to transfer the Elxis files in a minute. It will require to enter username & password to access the local or remote FTP.
4. Add an already existing Elxis installation (simply some data, not an installation procedure)
5. Separate details for my Elxis installations, such as date of installation, cost for me, cost for my customer, username & password for admin and many others.
And it would be perfect if an owner of many Elxis had the ability to use only his Elxis tools to debug or add something to his website, instead of having to buy extra software.
Many users will consider using Elxis tools, because we are often away from our computer, where we have our various information for our Elxis websites & software to solve problems or to add something to our Elxis websites (FTP, SSH, PHP Editor’s, and other tools…).
I understand that all I have described isn’t easy to create but it will make one more huge difference from all the other CMS (open source & commercial), and Elxis will be a leader way ahead of the others.
And about your note, is there any user manual about the capabilities of the tools & components?
Many users are only starting now with Elxis and they have a thousand questions because Elxis is so different from any other CMS. Yes, we have the Book of Elxis, but something separate for each Elxis tool would be great if it was free of charge.
Elxis FAN.
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And it would be perfect if an owner of many Elxis had the ability to use only his Elxis tools to debug or add something to his website, instead of having to buy extra software.
Many users will consider using Elxis tools, because we are often away from our computer, where we have our various information for our Elxis websites & software to solve problems or to add something to our Elxis websites (FTP, SSH, PHP Editor’s, and other tools…).
We are talking about a Content Management System. Right?
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Supernet, just look forward.
All this will be something to be added, and I am not talking about the basic package but about a version for web developers & owners with many websites. Something like the Web Hosting Manager of the Cpanel Company.
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Yeah i know about WHM, and it's totally different. Let's focus on CMS needs.
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As Supernet said, Elxis is a CMS not a control panel for your web server. Also things you asked are features that should exist in a level above Elxis, not inside Elxis. It is a bad idea to bring these things inside Elxis for many reasons. I have also give up in the past some of my ideas for Elxis because at last most people just want to add and manage content fast and easily.
Please also note these:
1. There is no faster method for setting up Elxis than from an SSH enviroment. You will only need a few seconds to download, unzip and set the right permissions/owner to an Elxis site. Then use the web installer (no more than a minute work) and your site is ready. The whole procedure to an experienced user can take no more than 3-4 minutes. If someone manages web servers and is not familiar with SSH enviroment and linux commands it is not our or Elxis problem. (ie just use wget or cp to download/copy Elxis directly to the site you wish in seconds, ftp access is useless).
2. You discard an allready existing solution because it is commercial but you ask to add for free these features for your commercial usage (for your customers)! Do you think we are fools?
3. From my experience people have problem understanding complex applications. Elxis advanced features are often hidden in order not to confuse the users. If you see upcoming component EDir you wont be able to make it out with it without reading the manual first. It is powerful but the cost is that it needs your attention. Most users dont have the patience to do this. We consider these parameters in everything we create. We leave the complexity only inside code and we try to bring out a user friendly interface but if you want advanced solutions the interface can not be always simple.
4. Elxis is an already rich CMS. We have include in the main distribution many features that other CMSs dont have. We add more, but only things that have straight relationship with the better managing of content. Things you said will only be usable for a few people that want to make money out of it. If you want custom applications for your company you should build it yourself or hire people to do this work for you. Don't mess your company needs with the needs of a normal Elxis user.
5. Elxis can be the layer for setting up your small internet empire. We give you all the needed tools. It is up to you how to use them.
BTW, speking about tools, the attached screenshot is the new Elxis Tools main page (more changes will be made in the future).
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Thank you Datahell, for your answer and I can see your point of view even if it isn't the same as mine. Of course I don’t think you are fools and I can understand that you should be the first to benefit from Elxis, and then all the others, and you are right about that.
You are also right in saying that I speak with my own needs from Elxis in mind, but don’t we all? You and me and all the users who have already posted their wishes are asking for what we all want of Elxis.
BTW wherever I go I always have my laptop with me, in case I need to support one of my customers or my own site, and it would be a great help to be able to do this more easily. I don’t think I am the only one who does this, so I believe that other people would also welcome this possibility.
But, as I said we are looking at things from different viewpoints. I am putting forward my needs as a user and you are considering those needs from the perspective of a provider.
One point I do think you should consider is which type of user are you targeting at? From my own experience, I would think that most users unzip the Elxis locally and then transfer the unzipped file to the server. Do you really know of many users with multiple websites and knowledge of SSH?
Answer to 3.
I have seen the Edir (elias has shown it to me) and I have to say it is really user friendly, and I understand that the code behind such a component is complex. There’s a lot of work behind it, I agree.
Answer to 4.
Worldwide, there must be a large number of users who will want to invest money in order to save time and make money for themselves, and that is for sure.
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I think, this is the main point:
Also things you asked are features that should exist in a level above Elxis, not inside Elxis. It is a bad idea to bring these things inside Elxis for many reasons.
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What about one more feature?
That is being able to set an editor that would open a module.
Users can create modules, but to be correct the module has to created with the "NO WYSIWYG Editor", and after some time if the user has forgotten to change the default editor and he opens the module with the "TinyMCE Editor" all the code inside the module will be destroyed.
And yes I am one of the users who have faced this problem...
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What kind of code? Javascript? The editor is for adding text, not code. If you wish to make a module having php, javascript or any other code then create a module using the normal way and install it. It is a simple task even for non experts. There are many users in this forum who could write a small tutorial for those that are not familiar with modules creation. I don't like at all the idea of adding even javascript through the editor. Even if Elxis is secured enough against hack attempts it is in general a method we must always avoid. In Elxis security matters.