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Community => Elxis Community => Topic started by: datahell on January 26, 2010, 14:00:18
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I would like you to propose subjects for seminars to organize in elxis.org in the next days. It can be of any subject related to elxis and the web.
If also, anyone wants to present something go ahead. He will have my help if he needed it.
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I like developing components for Elxis
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I think that programming will be a hot topic in general.
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If we don't do a PHP seminar it would be wrong to do seminars for modules, components, etc, as some people wont be able to understand what we do.
But a PHP seminar for newbies requires many lessons (at least 4 X 3 hours), enough preparation by me (documentation, etc) and free time that I currently do not have.
For now I can nt do a PHP seminar. A seminar for modules development would be easy but as I said people that dont know PHP wont be able to watch it. So, I wait for your final proposals (you can propose many seminars in order to make a schedule). I would be grateful if someone of you would also like to present something (for example elxis usage / administration for new users). Peter you could do seminars in English if you like for the elxis new users.
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May be about Elxis security (server settings, php, and using elxis tools)?
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I am creating a php / mysql seminar. I will try to have something ready for next week but the seminar will be broken into a few pieces and to make it as easy as possible. I will let you know more as soon as possible.
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Regarding the modules development seminar scheduled on Friday, 05 February 2010, 20:00GMT+2:
9 people already joined the seminar in the first 10 hours. I believe that we will reach very soon the limit of the 20 participants max.
So, if you wish to attend this seminar hurry up!
Elxis webinars schedule (https://www.elxis.org/webinars/) (English page)
Πρόγραμμα σεμιναρίων του Elxis (https://www.elxis.org/el/webinars/) (Greek page)
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whose i the first one ? ;D
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I am in :)
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The module seminar will be first.
Γιαννη, I forgot ask if the seminar materials will have a directory somewhere for upload/download?
I just sent you my email.
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During the presentation you upload (share) the seminar material live at dimdim.
After the presentation you send it to me and I upload it on elxis.org.
Peter did you get my yesterday e-mail?
whose i the first one ? ;D
1 angela_music2003 Jan 31, 2010 08:42 PM
2 dj_teo13 Jan 31, 2010 08:42 PM
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::)
Ι receive the e-mail information on Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 8:06 PM
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datahell,
Yes, answered and returned to you.
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I received nothing...
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Yes i agree too for future seminars on related Elxis matters as bots, components e.t.c. Last time we covered a part of "how to create a module". I think that a good choice for the next seminar could be, "how to create a bot", which is closely related to module and then can follow some seminars on "how to create a component" as the most difficult and big one matter on Elxis. Of course all these seminars demand a basic till good knowledge of php, which varies among us.
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I re-open this post after some months of inactivity because I believe that it is urgent people to get educated more. I mostly care about PHP lessons, as PHP is -in our case- the most important scripting language. Most developers seems very confused on how things work. They get stuck in php functions and loose the general picture. As I have said several times, the most important thing is not to learn the php functions, but to learn how to think and to solve problems. Computers are stupid machines, they do what you tell them. But you have to tell your orders in a special language because they don't speak German or French. So we use PHP to tell them do stuff. In order to build good software we must first organize our thoughts and keep a general picture of what we want to build in our mind. Then we will use php to tell the computer what to do.
So, I am thinking of making again free lessons for the very basic stuff about php. Someone may say "I know these, I would like something harder". The problem is that most of them are wrong. Most "developers" do not deeply understand functions, arrays, and other simple PHP's things and I see this in the code they write. PHP is moving fast (see PHP 5.3+, PHP 6.X), people staying back to an old-fashioned coding style will soon not be able to write php any more. They might have to change job...
I am thinking of making a "persistent" seminar (a kind of a "class") that will start from the php basics and move to object oriented programming, design patterns, namespaces, and other more advanced stuff. I could perform 2-4 lessons per month from now till summer 2011. The seminar's language, unfortunately for the others, will be Greek because I can not express my self good in English. Is there anybody interested?
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I re-open this post after some months of inactivity because I believe that it is urgent people to get educated more. I mostly care about PHP lessons, as PHP is -in our case- the most important scripting language. Most developers seems very confused on how things work. They get stuck in php functions and loose the general picture. As I have said several times, the most important thing is not to learn the php functions, but to learn how to think and to solve problems. Computers are stupid machines, they do what you tell them. But you have to tell your orders in a special language because they don't speak German or French. So we use PHP to tell them do stuff. In order to build good software we must first organize our thoughts and keep a general picture of what we want to build in our mind. Then we will use php to tell the computer what to do.
So, I am thinking of making again free lessons for the very basic stuff about php. Someone may say "I know these, I would like something harder". The problem is that most of them are wrong. Most "developers" do not deeply understand functions, arrays, and other simple PHP's things and I see this in the code they write. PHP is moving fast (see PHP 5.3+, PHP 6.X), people staying back to an old-fashioned coding style will soon not be able to write php any more. They might have to change job...
I am thinking of making a "persistent" seminar (a kind of a "class") that will start from the php basics and move to object oriented programming, design patterns, namespaces, and other more advanced stuff. I could perform 2-4 lessons per month from now till summer 2011. The seminar's language, unfortunately for the others, will be Greek because I can not express my self good in English. Is there anybody interested?
I can only write my disappoint about the choice to use the Greek as main language :'( . Please Datahell deeply think to use English language instead greek this because like me, many users will be really interested in your seminar.
Please mate can you try to do your lesson in english ?
Thanks in advance for your availability.
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We can see that. Depends on who wills to participate.
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We are learning a programming language , we need to know a little php language to learn more
if you know the basic of php , you will learn more , if the teacher be in Greek , Persian , or another languages
if you know HTML , CSS , or some basic of PHP (like echo , variables , ...) so you can learn from Datahell
You should learn from the php language , not from Greek language ... :D
I was in some of John's conferences , I don't know Greek at all , But I learned those lessons completely :D
I like these lessons , I like learn more and more very much :)
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I like this move John and i will participate whenever these seminars take place.
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We are learning a programming language , we need to know a little php language to learn more
if you know the basic of php , you will learn more , if the teacher be in Greek , Persian , or another languages
if you know HTML , CSS , or some basic of PHP (like echo , variables , ...) so you can learn from Datahell
You should learn from the php language , not from Greek language ... :D
I was in some of John's conferences , I don't know Greek at all , But I learned those lessons completely :D
I like these lessons , I like learn more and more very much :)
Ciao Farhad :) ,
I'm just a noob in programming PHP but for what I've read we are going to learn "not the php functions, but to learn how to think and to solve problems" and for me this mean starting understand the problem facing it and trying solving it using PHP language.
For me is really important to can read the language where the concept are expressed to better understand "how to solve" the problem. For me is not important the PHP function explained but how the function is applied in order to solve the problem.
Ciao :)
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Hi Francesco ,
Nice to see you again here
I just mentioned about my experience in the last conferences .... ;)
I think that I got most of the lessons , But in Greek language ;)
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to be in conference, wich software i need? and with webcam too?
if greek is like russian, i can understand it a little ;D
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Greek is like Greek :D
I might do the seminar in both languages at the same time :o
We will see.
By the way, happy new year to all!
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He is not a human he's a multilingual machine. ;D
Happy new year John , Happy new year to all of you!