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Support => General => Topic started by: tigerstyle on January 26, 2009, 15:52:28

Title: How is the performance of Elxis?
Post by: tigerstyle on January 26, 2009, 15:52:28
Hi,

I'm wondering how the performance of Elxis is. Does somebody have any experience?

5'000 PI's/month?
100'000 PI's/month?
5'000'000 PI's/month?
30'000'000 PI's/month?

Thx
Title: Re: How is the performance of Elxis?
Post by: ks-net on January 26, 2009, 16:31:50
I think Such  Performance Indicators   considers more a commercial application...
   
Title: Re: How is the performance of Elxis?
Post by: tigerstyle on January 26, 2009, 18:48:32
I think Such  Performance Indicators   considers more a commercial application...
   

So you think Elxis isn't performant enought for a bigger commerical use?
Title: Re: How is the performance of Elxis?
Post by: datahell on January 26, 2009, 18:49:33
I am not familiar with this term/unit. How exactly you generate these number and what they mean?
Title: Re: How is the performance of Elxis?
Post by: ks-net on January 26, 2009, 20:02:02
I think Such  Performance Indicators   considers more a commercial application...
   

So you think Elxis isn't performant enought for a bigger commerical use?

it is very clear what i am saying...
and  none.. in any way .... can use my words  to do such ridicules comparisons...


elxis is open source  ... i don't like that "commercial use" that you mention above  or what ever you mean
(unless you mean worldwide)

elxis has no need to be a big commercial  staff
it can be big or the bigest but still opensource ... that is enough for me, for this community and it can be for all the world.

Title: Re: How is the performance of Elxis?
Post by: CREATIVE Options on January 26, 2009, 20:16:51
PI = Page Impression
Title: Re: How is the performance of Elxis?
Post by: datahell on January 26, 2009, 20:19:59
Page impression or Performance Indicator?

Is this the term: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_performance_indicator (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_performance_indicator) ?
Title: Re: How is the performance of Elxis?
Post by: ks-net on January 26, 2009, 20:21:32
John.. and for every one that want to have a view about what we are talking

you can start from here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_performance_management
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_performance_management#Metrics_.2F_Key_Performance_Indicators  


KPI’s Key performance indicator
PI's performance indicator
BPM Bussiness performance management
performance management (CPM) software

are all relative and pointing(or interested) business management etc.
Title: Re: How is the performance of Elxis?
Post by: ks-net on January 26, 2009, 20:22:07
PI = Page Impression

no

PI's
Title: Re: How is the performance of Elxis?
Post by: datahell on January 26, 2009, 21:06:54
I saw these links on wikipedia, read a few things (not interested to read all this yuppie-related stuff), but I still dont understand how a web application can be metered. I think this meter could never be objective. It is like you try to meter your love to your girlfriend... So, for me Elxis has performance of 100'000'000'000'000'000 PI's/month  :D
Title: Re: How is the performance of Elxis?
Post by: tigerstyle on January 26, 2009, 21:22:35
I am not familiar with this term/unit. How exactly you generate these number and what they mean?

I mean Page Impressions, sorry when it wasn't clear.

I think Such  Performance Indicators   considers more a commercial application...
   

So you think Elxis isn't performant enought for a bigger commerical use?

it is very clear what i am saying...
and  none.. in any way .... can use my words  to do such ridicules comparisons...


elxis is open source  ... i don't like that "commercial use" that you mention above  or what ever you mean
(unless you mean worldwide)

elxis has no need to be a big commercial  staff
it can be big or the bigest but still opensource ... that is enough for me, for this community and it can be for all the world.

For better understanding I hope nobody here feels kind of insulted. I'm not somebody who wants to save money with opensource. When I use opensource then for that reason because sometimes it's the best solution. And I wouldn't hide that the website is build with an opensource product. Even it wasn't a question for a real project. I just red somewhere in the web that e.g. joomla is not performant enough for bigger projects up to 30 million page impression a month. And now I was wondering (because I like elxis very much) if Elxis could handle such a big number of visitors. That's all.

Thx for the other answer, too.
Title: Re: How is the performance of Elxis?
Post by: ks-net on January 26, 2009, 21:25:19
i totally agree

yes you are right

practically it is not possible to find out PI's since elxis haven't  CUSTOMERS... but ONLY LOVERS

this staff includes always a customer... some times students etc.. in general  always there is a person that is tracked and gives a feedback to the company or organization of the product that uses...

open source and their communities have only Lovers...

Title: Re: How is the performance of Elxis?
Post by: ks-net on January 26, 2009, 21:28:07
You are welcome....

no one here would hate somebody even if you was  talking about this  PI's staff

 
Title: Re: How is the performance of Elxis?
Post by: datahell on January 26, 2009, 22:02:09
Ok, this is now a term I know. I think that this issue is closer to the server that runs the application rather than the application itself. Elxis by default uses persistent connections to the database, this makes low-traffic sites run slightly slower but is an advantage for high-traffic sites as Elxis does not have to reconnect to the database in each click. If you use a lighter web server such as lighttpd, use gzip and a cache system on the server (not on elxis because it might have the complete opposite affect - needs benchmark to tell) I think Elxis can handle a lot of traffic. You can also use a load balancing system. So, the real question is: how much traffic your server can handle? Also MySQL has some limits, postgreSQL is better in this area, while Oracle is the best of the three for large scale web sites. Notice that Oracle support (oci8 driver) in Elxis is still experimental.

Copied from a web article:
....If persistent connections don't have any added functionality, what are they good for?
The answer here is extremely simple -- efficiency. Persistent connections are good if the overhead to create a link to your SQL server is high. Whether or not this overhead is really high depends on many factors. Like, what kind of database it is, whether or not it sits on the same computer on which your web server sits, how loaded the machine the SQL server sits on is and so forth. The bottom line is that if that connection overhead is high, persistent connections help you considerably. They cause the child process to simply connect only once for its entire lifespan, instead of every time it processes a page that requires connecting to the SQL server. This means that for every child that opened a persistent connection will have its own open persistent connection to the server. For example, if you had 20 different child processes that ran a script that made a persistent connection to your SQL server, you'd have 20 different connections to the SQL server, one from each child.
Title: Re: How is the performance of Elxis?
Post by: ks-net on January 26, 2009, 22:52:02
nice...

just to mention that acronym for page impressions is PI not PI's.

have i welcome you  to our company..

Welcome tigerstyle ! :D
Title: Re: How is the performance of Elxis?
Post by: tigerstyle on January 27, 2009, 00:14:17
nice...

just to mention that acronym for page impressions is PI not PI's.

have i welcome you  to our company..

Welcome tigerstyle ! :D


Thank you  :D