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Title: Docman for ELXIS 2008
Post by: Amigamerlin on June 20, 2008, 11:03:39
Hi guys,
have someone converted Docman (lastest release) to be compatible with ELXIS 2008 or at least got it woking on ELXIS 2008?

If yes can post a little how to ?

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Docman for ELXIS 2008
Post by: Farhad Sakhaei on June 20, 2008, 11:17:14
Amigamerlin has some problems with some components like AkoComment , DocMan
We chat  in Google Talk and he told me that he need these components for their business work , Unfortunately he said that if he can't to solve his problems , He should go to use another CMS against his wanting ... He said to me that he love Elxis and it's community , But he need these features , So I want all Elxis peoples to help him to solve his problems since he is kind  :)
Title: Re: Docman for ELXIS 2008
Post by: CREATIVE Options on June 20, 2008, 14:34:05
Amigamerlin & Farhad as you should know in our community we have the "Job-offering ads" over there Amigamerlin he can post his ad to find a people to make compatible his need with the Elxis 2008.

The Elxis team has realese several guides for how to make compatible 3rd parties components / modules / mambot / template with the 2008.
Also the Elxis team has deliver to all of us the Elxis (2006 & 2008), 3rd party components & e.t.c and know they develop the 2008.1 version of Elxis.

We must NOT wait from Elxis team to make it ALL for us for FREE, we use the BEST cms ever made (my opinion !), it is time to spend a few euros for our business needs.
Title: Re: Docman for ELXIS 2008
Post by: Farhad Sakhaei on June 20, 2008, 14:49:00
Yes , I didn't mention Elxis Team , I mentioned Elxis peoples , who want to help Elxis users  ;)
Currently I helped him in FacileForms , although a few
Title: Re: Docman for ELXIS 2008
Post by: Amigamerlin on June 20, 2008, 14:54:13
Amigamerlin & Farhad as you should know in our community we have the "Job-offering ads" over there Amigamerlin he can post his ad to find a people to make compatible his need with the Elxis 2008.

The Elxis team has realese several guides for how to make compatible 3rd parties components / modules / mambot / template with the 2008.
Also the Elxis team has deliver to all of us the Elxis (2006 & 2008), 3rd party components & e.t.c and know they develop the 2008.1 version of Elxis.

We must NOT wait from Elxis team to make it ALL for us for FREE, we use the BEST cms ever made (my opinion !), it is time to spend a few euros for our business needs.

1) I don't do business with ELXIS.
2) Give me only one reason Why I should pay for having a free component compatible with ELXIS 2008.
Only one reason that differ of "... your need".


... and this because I've do a wrong choice one years ago !!

Thank you for you support ... but you can be sure that I'll never support anymore ELXIS and I'll never ask something else.

Sure mate I'll ask to your "Job-offering ads" forum the help of someone that will convert all my job to "Joomla".

Bye
Title: Re: Docman for ELXIS 2008
Post by: Ivan Trebješanin on June 20, 2008, 16:24:15

1) I don't do business with ELXIS.
2) Give me only one reason Why I should pay for having a free component compatible with ELXIS 2008.
Only one reason that differ of "... your need".


1) You want to say that http://www.res-ingenium.com is NOT business?

2) I will give you 3 reasons:
    1. you can't do it yourelf
    2. you can't wait for someone else do it for free
    3. you don't want to do it yourself

PS
I am sorry about your tone Francesco, and that is the only reason I replied here. No one is stopping you to use any tool (CMS) you want. We gave you this tool for free, as many others did. You may choose what tool you will use, but it is not fair to say that the tool you got for free is bad because you can't get the best of it.
Title: Re: Docman for ELXIS 2008
Post by: Amigamerlin on June 20, 2008, 17:39:40

1) I don't do business with ELXIS.
2) Give me only one reason Why I should pay for having a free component compatible with ELXIS 2008.
Only one reason that differ of "... your need".


1) You want to say that http://www.res-ingenium.com is NOT business?

2) I will give you 3 reasons:
    1. you can't do it yourelf
    2. you can't wait for someone else do it for free
    3. you don't want to do it yourself

PS
I am sorry about your tone Francesco, and that is the only reason I replied here. No one is stopping you to use any tool (CMS) you want. We gave you this tool for free, as many others did. You may choose what tool you will use, but it is not fair to say that the tool you got for free is bad because you can't get the best of it.

Let me answers...

In order :

1)  business: with my "I don't do business" I mean "I don't build site with ELXIS" ... read I don't have to build site to live. 
Building site is not my job.
I've seen that many user there using ELXIS for building some other commercial site.
This is not my case and anyway I can do "my business" with tons of other CMS since I've only ONE site.

2) Reason :
    1. you can't do it yourelf
    Right ... since building site is not my job I'm not a programmer

    2. you can't wait for someone else do it for free
    Wrong.. I currently have it working from legacy conversion (and you know this very well) but I would like to spread ELXIS in the next future for other sites partners of mine.

Was my opinion that spreading/suggesting ELXIS is the real way to sue to have it growing but maybe I've do a mistake thinking that.

Moreover no one write that I need it right now.

As I wrote the real reason is a little bit different a little bit "hight" then the one you thought. 
 
    3. you don't want to do it yourself
    Read point 1 

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I am sorry about your tone Francesco, and that is the only reason I replied here. No one is stopping you to use any tool (CMS) you want. We gave you this tool for free, as many others did. You may choose what tool you will use, but it is not fair to say that the tool you got for free is bad because you can't get the best of it.

Please quote me where I've wrote "that the tool I got for free is bad because I can't get the best of it " or which part of my writing has let you thought this.


Sorry you all If I tried to spread ELXIS writing and explaining the reason why I can't.
Sorry for that.

Let me know too a reason why I should pay for spreading ELXIS !! ... yes ... just for spreading ELXIS ... becuse, as I wrote (and you know very well), I don't need components for myself and for "my business"  since I've all I need and all is working.
 
I don't like to argue anymore spending more time on this poor argument.
I'm really sorry about your tone. You wrote without knowing my reason.

I'm not a baby that cry because don't have the toy to play.

Best regards to you all.
Title: Re: Docman for ELXIS 2008
Post by: rentasite on June 20, 2008, 19:42:10
Im realy realy sorry for what im reading.

My friend Amigamerlin, maybe you have forgotten that some months ago, you came here asking for someone to create -FOR FREE- a template for your needs. And i told you that i can create one for you, as soon as I find free time.

A basic condition (and i told you that in the 1st place) of this manufacture was that... the template would not be 100% a copy of some other site as you wished. I dont work that way. Once again if you remember, you agreed with this condition. And i came up with BizNest template ( http://www.elxis-downloads.com/elxis-templates/front-end/biznest-template.html ) BUT you were not satisfied with this work.

Im sorry but you could have been more polite and comment within a more elegant way, the job i did for you. Those days i thought i was wrong (and you were right) but i couldnt do anything more... as my clients were waiting for me to finish something i was doing for FREE and for FUN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But after reading all those comments above, im sure that you must change the way you face people around you, if you want them to change the way they look at you (got it?). In any community, in any site, in any team.

As Sirigos said
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We must NOT wait from Elxis team to make it ALL for us for FREE

And as Ivan said also
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you can't wait for someone else do it for free

Maybe one day Docman will be released for Elxis 2008. But if you can't wait for that day... you have 3 choices.

1) Pay someone to do it for you
2) Don't use it
3) Move to another solution

You said
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...but you can be sure that I'll never support anymore ELXIS

In what way did you support Elxis? By using it? LOL Elxis supports us and our needs. What have you done to support Elxis? Hey mate!!! Requirements and Demands aren't Support.

You also said
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but I would like to spread ELXIS in the next future for other sites partners of mine.

Do you know how many times i have heard similar words? And do you know, how many times i have seen those words come true? NEVER!!!

And lastly you also said
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Let me know too a reason why I should pay for spreading ELXIS !!

I don't think that anyone asked you money for no reason. Elxis Team has never asked that also. - You don't pay to use Elxis as ITS FREE.  - You don't pay for spreading Elxis, keep that in mind.

It's like saying: Let me know a reason why i should pay for driving a Mercedes, i got for FREE.  ::) ::) If someone gave you a car... whould you go out asking and yelling... why he doesn't give you Gasoline for Free also ??? Would you?

Kind Regards
Spiros

Title: Re: Docman for ELXIS 2008
Post by: CREATIVE Options on June 20, 2008, 21:12:55
JUST NO COMMENT, Elxis community & Elxis Team cover me.
Title: Re: Docman for ELXIS 2008
Post by: Amigamerlin on June 20, 2008, 21:15:12
Im realy realy sorry for what im reading.

My friend Amigamerlin, maybe you have forgotten that some months ago, you came here asking for someone to create -FOR FREE- a template for your needs. And i told you that i can create one for you, as soon as I find free time.

A basic condition (and i told you that in the 1st place) of this manufacture was that... the template would not be 100% a copy of some other site as you wished. I dont work that way. Once again if you remember, you agreed with this condition. And i came up with BizNest template ( http://www.elxis-downloads.com/elxis-templates/front-end/biznest-template.html ) BUT you were not satisfied with this work.


Yes...and as you suggested I payed for having my template converted.
Now I'm happy

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Im sorry but you could have been more polite and comment within a more elegant way, the job i did for you. Those days i thought i was wrong (and you were right) but i couldnt do anything more... as my clients were waiting for me to finish something i was doing for FREE and for FUN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm sorry for that but really was not my intention criticize your work.

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But after reading all those comments above, im sure that you must change the way you face people around you, if you want them to change the way they look at you (got it?). In any community, in any site, in any team.
Don't worry mate I'll not be around there anymore "asking for FREE ".

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You said
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...but you can be sure that I'll never support anymore ELXIS

In what way did you support Elxis? By using it? LOL Elxis supports us and our needs. What have you done to support Elxis? Hey mate!!! Requirements and Demands aren't Support.

Mate .. money support ... I hate to remember you that I'm a donators too... and this will not mean that I'll not do it again ...   
Go to the donors page and give a look !!

You also said
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but I would like to spread ELXIS in the next future for other sites partners of mine.

Do you know how many times i have heard similar words? And do you know, how many times i have seen those words come true? NEVER!!!

Are you saing me that I'm a liar of something of this ?
If you don't believe is your problem not my problem but you can't say me that I'm liar since you don't know nothing about me.
I was polite and you should be the same !!
You have to apologize for this !!

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And lastly you also said

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Let me know too a reason why I should pay for spreading ELXIS !!

I don't think that anyone asked you money for no reason. Elxis Team has never asked that also. - You don't pay to use Elxis as ITS FREE.  - You don't pay for spreading Elxis, keep that in mind.

It's like saying: Let me know a reason why i should pay for driving a Mercedes, i got for FREE.  ::) ::) If someone gave you a car... whould you go out asking and yelling... why he doesn't give you Gasoline for Free also ??? Would you?

Spiros, are yyou trying to teach me something ? ... well anyway don't try to put in my mounth something that I don't say !! Go ahead and read ALL my message in this board to better understand my spirt . All the words in this topic for nothing.

Maybe you don't have read with attention ... and I'll repeat myself  I'VE WHAT I NEED.  NO NEED DOCMAN, AKOCOMMENT, FACILEFORM SINCE I'VE GOT IT FULLY WORKING FROM SITE CONVERSION !!! Then what's the problem ? 

The only thing that I really need was the template and I PAYED (FEW EUROS TO BE SINCERE) FOR HAVING IT CONVERTED then why I should ask for those components again ?

Maybe you think I'm fool or stupid .. well sorry but I'm not !!

Is only sincere interest in this Wonderfull CMS.. nothing else, nothing less nothing more from my side .
 
Spreading, supporting, suggesting ELXIS for me is SUPPORT and came for FREE, from my side!!! 
This is the reason why I've wrote the reason why I've to pay for Spreading ELXIS.

Maybe you simply don't understand what REALLY mean FREE SUPPORT (since you sayd me that I've asked ALL THE SUPPORT for FREE )

Ok.. I really hate to do this ... but ...

Using Google find my nick and try to understand better what REALLY mean FREE SUPPORT then come back and write me again.
You will discorver what really mean GIVE SUPPORT FOR FREE and asking for nothing !!! 
 
When you have read come back again and we can talk about FREE SUPPORT.

Regards SUPERNET.
Title: Re: Docman for ELXIS 2008
Post by: Ivan Trebješanin on June 20, 2008, 21:35:02
OK, that's enough... we shouldn't argue here and waste time. Francesco, why don't you call me via Skype, I know you're OK guy. I also know Spiros is good guy too. This is the season of vacations, I know we are all worn up, so let's put our minds at ease and relax a little bit.

Peace, my friends  ;)
Title: Re: Docman for ELXIS 2008
Post by: Farhad Sakhaei on June 20, 2008, 21:57:43
I don't know why you are discussing , Amigamerlin just wanted help , So If anyone want to help him , start to help , He can do it for free or offer him for money ... Is it important that he is using Elxis for business or no ? Elxis let anyone to use it for business or not !
Also he didn't mention any one to do anything ...

Also there are many users of Elxis 2006 that they came to use Elxis because it had many components , Modules and etc ...
They tried to use it for 1 year ... But now in Elxis 2008 they can't have them anymore , They started to design their site with those components , modules but now ? Should they leave all of them ? I think that Amiga is angry for this !

Also I am a user whose selected Elxis because it had many components ... FacileForms , Gallery , Comment , E-Shop and more
This is not good that in an upgrade to latest version , we loose many of components & add-ons and we can't use them anymore ...
Also we haven't another solution ...
The problem of Amiga is my problem too , maybe is the problem of other users ... We should discuss the facts ... not affectations ... We should criticise our self ...

I want all of you to help the project and try to solve these matters , Don't discuss more , Just do it ... Help another peoples to help our self ... for free or no-free  :)
Title: Re: Docman for ELXIS 2008
Post by: rentasite on June 20, 2008, 22:40:23

Sorry guys but i can't translate this: Allou varoun ta tympana, ki alloy xoreyei i nyfi...

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Docman for ELXIS 2008
Post by: kebic on June 20, 2008, 23:07:24
Friends: open heart + open mind = open source  ;D
Title: Re: Docman for ELXIS 2008
Post by: rentasite on June 20, 2008, 23:18:42

I agree kebic. A last word from me, on this topic

Ingratitude: Give me the mean of this word also.  ;)

Title: Re: Docman for ELXIS 2008
Post by: Amigamerlin on June 20, 2008, 23:48:20
I don't know why you are discussing , Amigamerlin just wanted help , So If anyone want to help him , start to help , He can do it for free or offer him for money ... Is it important that he is using Elxis for business or no ? Elxis let anyone to use it for business or not !
Also he didn't mention any one to do anything ...

Also there are many users of Elxis 2006 that they came to use Elxis because it had many components , Modules and etc ...
They tried to use it for 1 year ... But now in Elxis 2008 they can't have them anymore , They started to design their site with those components , modules but now ? Should they leave all of them ? I think that Amiga is angry for this !

Also I am a user whose selected Elxis because it had many components ... FacileForms , Gallery , Comment , E-Shop and more
This is not good that in an upgrade to latest version , we loose many of components & add-ons and we can't use them anymore ...
Also we haven't another solution ...
The problem of Amiga is my problem too , maybe is the problem of other users ... We should discuss the facts ... not affectations ... We should criticise our self ...

I want all of you to help the project and try to solve these matters , Don't discuss more , Just do it ... Help another peoples to help our self ... for free or no-free  :)

Thank you Farhad.

I think you can understand how I feel myself ... since we talked via chat.

I've to write here that I've got REAL FREE SUPPORT only from you Farhad !!
you delivered fact and not words !! 

Being egoistic thanks to your job now I've migrated my site (to be precise is not my site,  is the site of the company where I work) from ELXIS 2006.4 to ELXIS 2008 having it fully working.

... you don't have wrote me goto "JOBS AD Forum" and write there about.

To be sincere I was ready to pay for the migration ... and when your script arrived for free I thought ..." wow what a wonderfull and strong community" and I wrote this down in one of my post:  https://forum.elxis.org/index.php?topic=2001.15

I thought wrongly that all in this community were like you ... with the "good and great helping hands spirit inside" ready to help just for do it and this pushed myself for asking to other community member their help ... the help that the same community member now are shooting back in my face,  the help that  "... I've asked -FOR FREE-" (just like I was an heretic asking for help) end they gave me as a great donors !!

I've to admit that I've do a big mistake. Thinking that all were like you Farhad was a big mistake.

Ok . I've talked too much too, but this is what come from my heart and I've to write.

Ciao my Friend
Thank you again.
Title: Re: Docman for ELXIS 2008
Post by: babis1 on June 21, 2008, 01:13:07

Sorry guys but i can't translate this: Allou varoun ta tympana, ki alloy xoreyei i nyfi...

 ;D ;D ;D
eeeeeeeee.....
in someplace play the drums and in another place (far away from drums) dance the bride ;D
but i cant translate this..
opoios den theli na zimosi deka meres koskinizei