Elxis CMS Forum
Extensions => Components => Topic started by: Farhad Sakhaei on May 27, 2008, 16:34:25
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Hi Friends ,
I am researching to find a good component (Mambo/Joomla) to bring and compatible it for Elxis
I think there are many Elxis users that they need to have a shopping cart component beside their site ...
So if you want to help us in this subject you can do any of the following subjects :
1- I am ready to support and pay for starting any project for this subject as a final GNU/GPL licensed component for Elxis (Elxis Team , Elxis Community , Others)
2- Making a bridge with a good known Shopping Cart (I am ready to pay for developing it too)
3- Help us to finding and researching a good component in order to bring and compatible with Elxis (Mambo/Joomla Components)
4- Tel us about components that you used in this subject and which component you love
5- I'm ready to work on any of above mentioned so if you interested too , you can participate in this subject too
Regards
Farhad
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count me in ;)
I need some solution, too. However, I must say that I haven't found anything good so far.
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Thank you Ivan , Could you please tell us about which matters you didn't find in which components?
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I have tested QuickCard, VirtueMart, Magneto, OScommerce... almost any thing that's free, but I didn't like any of them. OScommerce is almost good, but it's very hard to make template for it. Magneto has a good template system, but it seems a little heavy on the processor... I don't know this is very hard question.
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What about VirtueMart ?
Do you think it is better than others for this purpose?
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What about VirtueMart ?
Do you think it is better than for this purpose?
I have made it running on my localhost, but I am not ready to use it on some live site. There are too many files to be checked, so I rather use some standalone apps and show them trough a wrapper.
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If you think it will be good , I am ready to work on it ... I didn't check it
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OK, let's work together. Maybe we could create some SVN.
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These days i was going to take a look on these Open source E-COMMERCE solutions. ;) Here you go:
http://www.creloaded.com
http://www.oscommerce.com
http://www.zen-cart.com
http://www.magentocommerce.com
http://www.prestashop.com
http://cpcommerce.cpradio.org
http://www.openfreeway.org
http://www.phpshop.org
http://www.oscmax.com
http://www.osc2nuke.com
http://www.opencart.com
http://www.digistore.co.nz
http://virtuemart.net
http://www.bosscart.com
http://bakesalehq.com
http://www.mals-e.com
http://www.ubercart.org
http://www.fatfreecart.com
http://www.agoracart.com
http://www.storesprite.com
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Thank you supernet
I want that John help us to select a solution for this subject ,
So we have these 4 ways :
1- Bringing and compatible VirtueMart to Elxis
2- Create a bridge for Magento and install it beside Elxis
3- No action , Just Install Magento beside of Elxis and use it ...
4- Other undiscussed subject
I want other users to help us and give us infos about this subject and tell us their favorite requests
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I have to point, that I have install and use ALL most all the commerce solutions (open source and commercial spending a lot of money and time) searching the best one the last 3 years for my personal e-shop.
And I have select to setup my shop it with the Magento.
My first requirements was:
1. UTF-8
2. Secure (not only supporting SSL, but inside the core)
3. Easy change templates
4. Custom fields
5. Open box for how many pieces the customer need to buy (from 1 - 999999999 by typing the pieces)
6. Related products options
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What about writing a new component ? ;D
If John help us about Elxis core functions and their functionality , even if tell us that which functions do what ?
We can start to write this component and grow it every day ;)
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And I have select to setup my shop it with the Magento.
Tell us Sirigos, don't you have the same feeling about Magneto? I had an impression that it is slower then, eg. OScommerce.
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If we use Megneto , What about users? They should join in 2 parts? Elxis site part & shopping cart site ?
You don't need bridge ? ???
I prefer VirtueMart ...
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You can use VM without visible problems, except for the user profiles, and some filemanager/eUTF implementation. It can be modified easily, but, I wonder what issues are hiding? :-\
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Forget the bridge solution.
My recommendations:
1. For large stores: use a standalone shopping cart (Magento is nice), not elxis. Do not try to bridge it with Elxis CMS.
2. For small to medium stores: Create an Elxis component.
3. For small stores with few products you can follow a smart and easy solution: Use content items to display your products and a payment component/bot for the payments. There is a joomla component working like this. You can also use my free bot for payments via paypal.
If you wish to built a shopping cart component for Elxis I can not participate, as I have no free time, but I will help as much as I can. That component should have the following characteristics:
1. Use Elxis native core functions (utf-8, file manager, access system, language and rtl, UPL for sending notifications in user's preferable language, adodb compatible, installation using XML schema, multi-lingual XML parameters)
2. Object Oriented (OO) programming using PHP 5.
3. Compatible with MySQL, PostgreSQL, Oracle, msSQL
4. Ability to pay online at least via paypal, authorize.net and proxy pay 3.
5. User should be able to create unlimited categories and sub-categories.
6. Ability to enter each product title and description in a number of languages (like the Reservations component, I can show you how to create a dialect system).
7. Product features and variants (some of them may affect the final price).
8. VAT zones for proper VAT calculation.
etc...
Notice: component EDir for elxis 2006 had a shopping cart extension that supported most of the above features. I can send you some sample files to help you although they are copyrighted by me.
A shopping cart component needs A LOT OF WORK to be created. Shopping carts are very complex and difficult applications.
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And I have select to setup my shop it with the Magento.
Tell us Sirigos, don't you have the same feeling about Magneto? I had an impression that it is slower then, eg. OScommerce.
I have use Magento in IIS & Linux, I have to say that in IIS yes it was slow in some processes.
But in Linux it was perfect !I have insert more than 5000 products plus 2 sub-products to each product, so I have ~ 15000 products.
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If magento was slow imagine how slow will be an Elxis-magento bridge that will load 2 huge APIs simultaneous. A bridge has also many serious other problems and limitations...
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We can alter VM to compatible with Elxis if there are any issues , I'm ready Ivan, If you interested we can make a SVN and start
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Sorry i didn't read latest posts :-[
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Forget the bridge solution.
Notice: component EDir for elxis 2006 had a shopping cart extension that supported most of the above features. I can send you some sample files to help you although they are copyrighted by me.
A shopping cart component needs A LOT OF WORK to be created. Shopping carts are very complex and difficult applications.
About extension for EDIR I interested ...
What about bringing VirtueMart to Elxis ?
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What about bringing VirtueMart to Elxis ?
As I told you, VM can be converted almost in about 1 hour of work. But, that is enough to remove all VISIBLE issues... I think there might be a lot of hidden issues, that you will notice only in real-life situations. I am NOT ready to support it completely. There would be thousands of questions from thousands of users... got my point? :P
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Yes , But I mean we can read all codes and make changes in every where that need ...
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Yes , But I mean we can read all codes and make changes in every where that need ...
Yes, we could, but we are not the original authors of this component, and we cannot know it so well as they do. I am not interested in spending months to know only one component. Whatsmore, it is a Mambo/Joomla! component. If authors of this component don't care to spend 1 hour to modify their component for Elxis, I don't see the reason why we should. I have a lot of contacts with Joomla component developers, and they are interested in posting their listings at elxis-downloads.com, but they don't care if their components even work on Elxis! They even propose that Elxis should be made more compatible!!! They think that Elxis should fit their components. It's like someone who makes tires for cars, and he complains that your car is not fit for his tires. Madness. Components like VM have large communities, donations, marketing... and I don't see any reason why one or two guys like us should spend enormous time to do their work!
I will try to find that modified VM, and send it to you and we can make it compatible, but are you prepared to answer thousands of users questions?
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I continued the discuss in this topic ;)
https://forum.elxis.org/index.php?topic=2192.msg13007#msg13007
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I don't know what happened, here is the new topic about this subject:
https://forum.elxis.org/index.php?topic=2194
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If I can I would like to write what I think about ...
Virtuemart can be a good solution for small /medium business solution and having it compatible with ELXIs can be really a good thing for ELXIS since many user are really impressed from ELXIS but don't want to switch to since the lack of some important component; Virtuemart is one of them.
Having important components will help ELXIS 2008 to grow in popularity and in users.
Growing in popularity mean having the right attention of other developers that will look interested at ELXIS.
From the other side I think Ivan Trebješanin has right; the developer should make it compatible with ELXIS ... but if they don't want to do it ... we can't close our eyes.
This community is so great and has in there a lot of great guys that strongly believe in ELXIS 2008 ... well IMHO we have to do the first step forward ... we have to start and when is done let the developers know how their components works good under ELXIS 2008 (better than in joomla / mambo I can guess).
Yes ... maybe ton of questions will be make ... but as I wrote this community has a lot of talented guys that can answers .. not only the guy that has done the porting.
Bye
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Forget the bridge solution.
My recommendations:
1. For large stores: use a standalone shopping cart (Magento is nice), not elxis. Do not try to bridge it with Elxis CMS.
2. For small to medium stores: Create an Elxis component.
3. For small stores with few products you can follow a smart and easy solution: Use content items to display your products and a payment component/bot for the payments. There is a joomla component working like this. You can also use my free bot for payments via paypal.
If you wish to built a shopping cart component for Elxis I can not participate, as I have no free time, but I will help as much as I can. That component should have the following characteristics:
1. Use Elxis native core functions (utf-8, file manager, access system, language and rtl, UPL for sending notifications in user's preferable language, adodb compatible, installation using XML schema, multi-lingual XML parameters)
2. Object Oriented (OO) programming using PHP 5.
3. Compatible with MySQL, PostgreSQL, Oracle, msSQL
4. Ability to pay online at least via paypal, authorize.net and proxy pay 3.
5. User should be able to create unlimited categories and sub-categories.
6. Ability to enter each product title and description in a number of languages (like the Reservations component, I can show you how to create a dialect system).
7. Product features and variants (some of them may affect the final price).
8. VAT zones for proper VAT calculation.
etc...
Notice: component EDir for elxis 2006 had a shopping cart extension that supported most of the above features. I can send you some sample files to help you although they are copyrighted by me.
A shopping cart component needs A LOT OF WORK to be created. Shopping carts are very complex and difficult applications.
Hi mate,
for my minimum amount of time spent with Virtuemart and for what I can understand it has on it already most of your specification and can be a good start :)... maybe Ivan can write detail about :)
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FreeWay & Joomla 1.5 (http://www.openfreeway.org/extensions/extension-details.html?tx_openfreewayextmanager_pi1%5Bfile%5D=3&tx_openfreewayextmanager_pi1%5Baction%5D=single&cHash=b13cf18593)
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Coursar you have the "Elxis Community" title in order to help, promote and support Elxis CMS and not to advertise other CMSs. If you wish to really support Elxis create an Elxis extension for Freeway or convert the Joomla's one to become compatible with Elxis.
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I don't advertise Joomla! If you look at comment at page in link yo see:
Coursar wrote at 15.06.2008 07:26
How about integration with Elxis CMS? (https://www.elxis.org)