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Support => General => Topic started by: ROUBOS on May 03, 2014, 21:39:50
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Hi,
just a quick question, there is a site which has good google search results and it requires a new install.
Will that affect the search results?
Will I have to re-submit it with google webmaster tools?
thanks
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OK this site was only in english.
It's a joomla site. I was asked to work on it and make it multilingual. The person thar originaly did this site, for some reasone installed a greek version of joomla within a subfolder.
So I removed all that and installed a second language to the site.
Now the thing is that in google results the greek version does not appear when searching with greek keywords. Even though I have added the meta description and keywords in both greek and english languages. Only the english description appears in the results.
My question is, will it just take time for google to make the changes, or do I have to re-submit the url to google webmaster tools?
We want to see the greek description when someone searches with greek keywords and the english when searching in english keywords. Like it should work.
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Submit a multilingual sitemap if you haven't already done so. What google shows you depends a lot on who you are. For example if I search for open source cms (https://www.google.gr/search?q=open+source+cms) it will show me elxis.org listed 4th in search results and also shows me the Greek version of elxis.org. If YOU do the same search it might list it 5th, 6th, 1st, or even on the second or third page of search results.
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Submit a multilingual sitemap?
will look it up on how to do this.
thanks
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Component Sitemap (https://www.elxis.net/edc/search-indexes/48.html) generates multilingual sitemaps.
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thanks for that :)
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Now I know this site is not Elxis. This is a general question.
Is this a multilingual sitemap? A component in joomla created it: mybabylonia.gr/sitemap.xml
This joomla site was created by someone else, they had created two installations, one for english and one for greek.
Since I was asked to take over and fix that, I disabled the greek site and made the original a multilingual site.
Now the problem is that the meta greek description of the site does not appear in the google search results. Only the english one.
I have submited the sitemap.xml file to google webmaster tools, with no result yet.
Is it a matter of time? Is there something else I can do?
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If google has already index you that way it will no change or it will change it in the future. Google also in many cases doesn't follow meta tags. Your sitemap is not multilingual. "index.php" in URLs are not good.
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Ok i will sort out the index.php. issue.
Then how do we make the multilingual sitemap?
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If multilingualism is enabled in Elxis global configuration then component Sitemap generates different sitemaps for each language. You can submit language variation sitemaps to Google like that (component Sitemap can generate 5 different sitemaps):
XML sitemaps
http://www.example.com/en/sitemap/sitemap.xml
http://www.example.com/el/sitemap/sitemap.xml
http://www.example.com/de/sitemap/sitemap.xml
etc...
XML Gun-zipped compressed sitemaps
http://www.example.com/en/sitemap/sitemap.xml.gz
http://www.example.com/el/sitemap/sitemap.xml.gz
http://www.example.com/de/sitemap/sitemap.xml.gz
etc...
Text/URL list sitemaps
http://www.example.com/en/sitemap/urllist.txt
http://www.example.com/el/sitemap/urllist.txt
http://www.example.com/de/sitemap/urllist.txt
etc...
HTML sitemaps
http://www.example.com/en/sitemap/sitemap.html
http://www.example.com/el/sitemap/sitemap.html
http://www.example.com/de/sitemap/sitemap.html
etc...
Images XML sitemap (independent of language - submits site images to google)
http://www.example.com/sitemap/images.xml
Real example (http://iosr4.isopensource2.com/sitemap/images.xml)
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thanks for you help and info.
I just removed the index.php from the urls.
This site is a joomla site unfortunately and that is the sitempa a component generated. so not sure...
I hope the owner agrees to convert the site to Elxis in the future. The thing is that he has had this site for over two years now and it is an online shop with many members etc...
EDIT>> Multilingual sitemap or not, shouldn't both languages be available in google results since they are enabled withing the administration and there are two different meta descriptions?
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Google does what ever it likes, it owns the internet...
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how long does it normally take for google to actually show a site?
The site does come up when searching with both greek or english keywords, but it only shows the english meta description. Not the greek one.
The multilingual works fine since when I visit the page it displays the site in greek since I'm browsing with a greek version browser, and not in english which is the default language.
I know that it could just be a matter of time before google sorts it out, but the ownes of the site keeps bothering me about it.
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should I add the following to my sitemap: ????
<url>
<loc>http://mybabylonia.gr/en/</loc>
<xhtml:link
rel="alternate"
hreflang="el"
href="http://mybabylonia.gr/el/"
/>
<xhtml:link
rel="alternate"
hreflang="en"
href="http://mybabylonia.gr/en/"
/>
</url>
<url>
<loc>http://mybabylonia.gr/el/</loc>
<xhtml:link
rel="alternate"
hreflang="en"
href="http://mybabylonia.gr/en/"
/>
<xhtml:link
rel="alternate"
hreflang="el"
href="http://mybabylonia.gr/el/"
/>
</url>
also do I add a second listing of the site in google webmaster tools?
mybabylonia.gr
and
mybabylonia.gr/el/
and
mybabylonia.gr/en/
?