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Title: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: datahell on October 10, 2007, 21:05:56: We have completed Elxis 2008 help system. Elxis 2008 has build-in multi-lingual help support. Even if you speak english as a secondary language, having a help system available in your own language is much more effective and helpful. So it is important for the people that will use Elxis 2008 to have a help available in their own language. Here is where we need your help. Elxis 2008 help system's power will be based on your translation work.

We need volunteers to translate Elxis 2008 help to other languages.
I post a link to a zip file which is the english language to have as base.

Here are the original (english) help files:

https://www.elxis.org/help_elxis_2008.0_english.zip (https://www.elxis.org/help_elxis_2008.0_english.zip)

What is for translation?
Elxis help system is consisted of 100 html files. Translation is a hard work so better create work groups for each language.

How do I begin translating?
Whoever wants to translate Elxis help system has to download the zip and write a post just bellow declaring that he/she took over the translation to that specific language inorder to know that there is a translation work in progress for this language and maybe some other users will also join your work group.

Where do I send the final files?
You send them via e-mail at datahell [AT] elxis [DOT] org AND to ia [AT] goup [DOT] gr (incase the e-mail wont arrive to the first address we will receive it from the second)

Translation guidelines:
1. Use a text editor that support utf-8 such as PsPad ( http://www.pspad.com ). HTML files should be encoded/saved as UTF-8.
2. Translate everything keeping the format and the style of the original files. The final files should be almost exact copies of the originals.

Notice: We also need translation in Greek language.

Thank you very much!

Translations statuses
- English, DONE, Translators: Elxis Team, Finished on 10/10/2007
- French, DONE, Translator: zepelin57, started on 11/10/2007 - finished on 20/10/2007
- Japanese, DONE, Translator: momo-i, started on 11/10/2007 - finished on 26/10/2007
- Russian, IN PROGRESS, started on 12/10/2007
Translators: Cursar -> help him!
- Persian, IN PROGRESS, started on 12/10/2007
Translators: Farhad -> help him!
- Serbian, IN PROGRESS, started on 12/10/2007
Translators: Ivan -> help him!
- Greek, IN PROGRESS, started on 13/10/2007
Translators: Sirigos, artman, c8620p -> help him!
- Italian, IN PROGRESS, started on 21/10/2007
Translators: theprincy-> help him!
- Turkish, IN PROGRESS, , started on 10/11/2007
Translator: thalassa

Edit: Sorry for the upset but we did a final addition to Elxis menus by creating a type o menu named "System links". So there is one more help page for translation. I attach it here (it is not inside the zip).

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Title: Re: Translator needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: Farhad Sakhaei on October 10, 2007, 21:17:11: hi john , i already finished translating help files for ELXIS 2006 , it is very interesting because i finished it today , and it is very more interesting that i should translate all of help system for 2008... :'( :'( i should say that it needs very hours to translate all of them and you should be patient ... ;)
Title: Re: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: datahell on October 10, 2007, 21:59:10: That's why I said that it is a hard work and you should work in groups, not alone. But there is no need to hurry up because translated help packages, due to their size (each language help is more than 0,5mb!) wont be included in the main distribution. You will be able to download it separately from elxis.org.

Some parts of the 2008 help are the same as in 2006.x so you wont have to translate them again. Very soon the 2006.x generation will belong to the Elxis history... Especially for the Persian language I will invite someone from the Iranian joomla team that wanted to help in the past.
Title: Re: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: eliasan on October 10, 2007, 22:28:39: Quote from: datahell on October 10, 2007, 21:05:56
Notice: We also need translation in Greek language.

Some of the Greek Help files are already translated.
We do not want to make double effort on help subjects that are already translated.

Please contact me for instructions.

Thank you very much!
Title: Re: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: zepelin57 on October 11, 2007, 01:26:36: Hi,

I had translated the version 2006, I will also translate the version 2008 into French.

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Title: Re: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: Ivan Trebješanin on October 11, 2007, 02:45:47: Don't worry, our turn will come soon. ;)
Title: Re: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: datahell on October 11, 2007, 07:34:51: Ok, zepelin, I write you down.
Title: Re: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: momo-i on October 11, 2007, 10:40:56: Hi, datahell

Japanese translation has started.
Title: Re: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: datahell on October 11, 2007, 10:45:37: Thanks momo-i. Notice: I don't know anything about Japanese, I just see strange, alien symbols :D So if there are some special specifications you need to implement in Elxis tell us and we will do it.
Title: Re: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: momo-i on October 11, 2007, 12:03:29: hum..

I will be using neither a Kanji/Hiragana/Katakana character nor a symbol as difficult as possible.
May I give examples though it doesn't know what strange, alien symbols displayed?

Quote from: datahell on October 11, 2007, 10:45:37
Thanks momo-i. Notice: I don't know anything about Japanese, I just see strange, alien symbols :D So if there are some special specifications you need to implement in Elxis tell us and we will do it.

thanks.
Title: Re: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: datahell on October 11, 2007, 13:25:11: "Kanji/Hiragana/Katakana": these are definitely alien names!
I would be glad to teach us a little your language. Who knows, we may some day install Elxis on Mars! :D

Sayonara! ;D
Title: Re: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: momo-i on October 12, 2007, 01:38:05: Hi, datahell.

Since I'm not so good at English, I may mistake the meaning which you have said.

For example, if "NEXT" is changed to a Kanj/Hiraganai, it will become the "次へ", and pronunciation will be set to "TSUGI E".

Do I only have to give some examples like the above to the Elxis team ???

thanks.

p.s.

Though this becomes another matter,
What should I do though the one that seemed that TYPO it was found though I just still
started translating?

elxis.access.main.html: 74
Quote
devided -> divided ???

elxis.access.permissions.html: 24-25
Quote
referes -> refers ???

elxis.access.permissions.html: 33
Quote
assuption -> assumption ???

Quote from: datahell on October 11, 2007, 13:25:11
"Kanji/Hiragana/Katakana": these are definitely alien names!
I would be glad to teach us a little your language. Who knows, we may some day install Elxis on Mars! :D
Title: Re: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: datahell on October 12, 2007, 08:18:35: You may find some spelling errors on the English files. This is normal for such a large text. If anyone has any problem about the translation contact eliasan as he knowns this issue better than me.
Title: Re: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: momo-i on October 12, 2007, 08:35:54: Ok.
Then, I think that I will send collectively what is considered to be TYPO to eliasan after finishing a Japanese translation.
Title: Re: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: Coursar on October 12, 2007, 08:59:40: Russian started.
Title: Re: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: Ivan Trebješanin on October 12, 2007, 09:13:41: ОченЪ хорошо, товаришЪ :D
Title: Re: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: Coursar on October 12, 2007, 14:01:01: ;)
Title: Re: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: Farhad Sakhaei on October 12, 2007, 14:19:30: what you say and laugh ? ;D

john , Persian not listed in help projects list !
Title: Re: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: datahell on October 12, 2007, 23:32:36: You did nt said that you started translation... I suppose you have started it so I write you down!
Title: Re: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: Ivan Trebješanin on October 12, 2007, 23:41:22: Sorry, I forgot to sign in, too... Serbian translation, of course
Title: Re: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: datahell on October 12, 2007, 23:44:01: Thanks Ivan.

We won't forget who helped us in this effort...
Title: Re: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: CREATIVE Options on October 12, 2007, 23:56:24: Greek translation started !

Elxis FAN.
Title: Re: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: Farhad Sakhaei on October 13, 2007, 01:25:00: Quote
hi john , i already finished translating help files for ELXIS 2006 , it is very interesting because i finished it today , and it is very more interesting that i should translate all of help system for 2008... i should say that it needs very hours to translate all of them and you should be patient ...

i mentioned this ;)
Title: Re: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: datahell on October 17, 2007, 10:59:46: Keep translating and working for Elxis project. We wont forget those that helped us...
Title: Re: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: zepelin57 on October 20, 2007, 01:28:31: French translation is done.

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Title: Re: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: datahell on October 20, 2007, 08:52:42: Perfect, you were very fast zepelin57!
The attached file is wrong. Most probably this happens because you can not attach files greater than 128kb in here. Upload it somewhere else and post here a link or send it with an e-mail at datahell [AT] elxis [DOT] org
Title: Re: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: zepelin57 on October 20, 2007, 21:39:59: Quote from: datahell on October 20, 2007, 08:52:42
Perfect, you were very fast zepelin57!
The attached file is wrong. Most probably this happens because you can not attach files greater than 128kb in here. Upload it somewhere else and post here a link or send it with an e-mail at datahell [AT] elxis [DOT] org

You can download it here: http://elxis-france.com/help_elxis_2008.0_french.7z (http://elxis-france.com/help_elxis_2008.0_french.7z)

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Title: Re: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: datahell on October 20, 2007, 22:56:13: Thank you very much zepelin57, I got it. Nice work! ;)
Title: Re: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: theprincy on October 21, 2007, 11:11:00: italian started today
Title: Re: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: datahell on October 21, 2007, 11:38:57: Very good, I write you down in the list.
It is very important to have help available in our own language. Italian speaking users will thank you!

Notice: These files due to their size (more than 0,5mb each) wont be in the standard Elxis 2008 release distribution but you will able to download them seperatly from elxis.org. Just un-zip them in the /help directory and you automatically have help in your own language!

Very soon we will also release frontend and backend language files for translation.
Title: Re: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: momo-i on October 25, 2007, 07:16:45: Japanese translation is already sent to both of the e-mails.

Download file: http://www.elxis.jp/src/help_elxis_2008.0_japanese.zip (http://www.elxis.jp/src/help_elxis_2008.0_japanese.zip)
Title: Re: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: datahell on October 25, 2007, 07:36:45: Thank you very much momo-i!
Title: Re: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: eliasan on October 25, 2007, 10:11:04: Thank you momo-i.
Please verify that Japanese are rendered correctly in the following screen shot.
Proud to see Elxis in Japanese! Thank you for that feeling.

(http://www.goup.gr/images/forum-images/jp-help-screen-sample.png)
Title: Re: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: momo-i on October 25, 2007, 10:41:19: Hi, eliasan

It is displayed satisfactorily. So I think that is OK :D

Regards,
Title: Re: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: eliasan on October 25, 2007, 10:45:06: Thank you for your reply.

Japanese are a Right to Left or Left to Right language?

"Satisfactory" means not as expected but readable or it means they are really OK?
Title: Re: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: momo-i on October 25, 2007, 11:07:10: Hi, eliasan

>"Satisfactory" means not as expected but readable or it means they are really OK?
It's really OK.

>Japanese are a Right to Left or Left to Right language?
Japanese is read from the left to the right.

Regards,
Title: Re: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: eliasan on October 25, 2007, 11:56:48: Quote from: momo-i on October 25, 2007, 11:07:10
It's really OK.

OK!
Title: One for file for translation
Post by: datahell on October 25, 2007, 19:19:34: We added one more page to the help system. Please translate it too.
Here is the file:

https://forum.elxis.org/index.php?topic=1405.msg8047#msg8047

Sorry!
Title: Re: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: zepelin57 on October 26, 2007, 00:21:43: French menus.system is done

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Title: Re: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: momo-i on October 26, 2007, 01:34:03: Japanese menus.system is done too.

http://www.elxis.jp/src/elxis.menus.system.zip (http://www.elxis.jp/src/elxis.menus.system.zip)
Title: Re: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: CREATIVE Options on October 31, 2007, 12:53:24: Because I am really busy this week I would like to ask for help to translate the Greek Help files.
If anyone would like to help me please send me a PM or Email.

Elxis FAN

Ps: Someone has already sent me an email offering to help me but I deleted it by accident.
Title: Re: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: artman on October 31, 2007, 13:34:10: I just send you an e-mail regarding...
Title: Re: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: Θαλάσσα on November 10, 2007, 14:19:30: Turkish translation started
Title: Re: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: artman on November 27, 2007, 12:54:44: I have a problem on finishing the translation of help. I won't be able to finish my part on time. If there is a Greek Person to help please pm me. Thanx
Title: Re: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: datahell on November 27, 2007, 13:10:01: If there is no one else send the semi-translated files back to us to finish it. (datahell -AT- elxis -DOT- org)
Title: Re: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: artman on November 27, 2007, 13:32:59: OK, I will finish today as many as I can and I will send the translated ones and the list of the non translated.

I will send you also a .txt of some mistakes that I found on English original files.
Title: Re: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: akalant on December 16, 2007, 18:36:02: hi eliasan, datahell
Please, send me the rest of the help files to translate them in Greek. Addition send me and 2 files {from Sirigos(1) and Artman(1)} to see their expression.
Title: Re: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: c8620p on December 21, 2007, 02:05:25: I have some time for you in Elxis Team.
Let me try to help you with the Greek translation.
Send me the unfinished files.
Title: Re: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: datahell on December 21, 2007, 19:33:30: I sent you the finished files (last Greek translator was psquare). You have to translate the rest files from the original zip posted in this topic.

Thank you
Title: Re: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: c8620p on December 22, 2007, 00:05:10: starting...
Title: Re: Translators needed for Elxis 2008 help
Post by: datahell on January 03, 2008, 13:32:05: How is going the Greek translation?
I see that unfortunately we wont have help in Greek for Elxis 2008.
There are only 2 days left until the first release...