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Support => General => Topic started by: Sunlight on November 25, 2008, 23:35:49

Title: How to make a series of BRIEF NEWS at a Special Section of 1st page ? (SOLVED)
Post by: Sunlight on November 25, 2008, 23:35:49
Urgent : How to make BRIEF NEWS visible, at a Special Section of the Frontpage ?


Please be as kind as to tell us if, and how it might be possible with Elxis to publish Brief News (i.e. a series of many Short Stories, with Photos/Videos, etc), in a Special Section of the Frontpage, (f.ex. at a portion of the Left side/column of the "Defaut" template).

F.ex. the Central part of the Frontpage could remain affected to Main and Secondary Articles with substantially developed texts.

The Brief News might be a Series of Links with Headlines, or, better, a Series of Short Photo/Text small blocks, with only a part of a Short text, continuing elsewhere. (F. ex. many Press Agencies use a presentation like this).

Is it necessary to use the E-Blog for that purpose, or can it be done also otherwise ?

Thanks for a clear and simplified reply, (if possible).
Title: Re: Urgent : How to make BRIEF NEWS visible, at a Special Section of the Frontpage ?
Post by: datahell on November 25, 2008, 23:38:54
Did you tried module "frontpage"?
Title: Re: Urgent : How to make BRIEF NEWS visible, at a Special Section of the Frontpa
Post by: Sunlight on November 25, 2008, 23:46:42
Did you tried module "frontpage"?

I'm right on it : How can it be used for the above-mentioned purpose ?
Title: Re: Urgent : How to make BRIEF NEWS visible, at a Special Section of the Frontpage ?
Post by: ks-net on November 25, 2008, 23:48:24
i think that this guy wants com_frontpage as is plus a side news brief.. like latest news but with some text & image...

like a second com_frontepage?

is that possible .. i think that 2 com_frontpage can't be at the same page... is that true?

what do you think datahell?
Title: Re: Urgent : How to make BRIEF NEWS visible, at a Special Section of the Frontpa
Post by: Sunlight on November 26, 2008, 00:00:56
i think that this guy wants com_frontpage as is, plus a side news brief.. like latest news but with some text & image...

like a second com_frontepage?

is that possible .. i think that 2 com_frontpage can't be at the same page... is that true?

what do you think datahell?


Interesting observation,
but not so clear to newbies.

- If you mean : "an Independent Series of Brief News",
(to place somewhere else, f.ex. at the left column), the answer is obviously Yes.

Many Sites (f.ex. Press Agencies, etc), have, in addition to the Main part with substantial Articles, a kind of Column with a Series of Short, Brief News, (only Headlines or also a small Text/Photo) at the Left or Right Side, (which is regularly renovated and continues elsewhere, at another page).

In Elxis, as it stands in its defaut template, we can all see a "Latest News" part, and a "Read also" part, but this concerns rather the Main, "big" Articles.

Is it possible to do something similar, at one of the sides, for an Independent Series of BRIEF NEWS ?

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If this might complicate things for Elxis, may be we could simplify, otherwise :

- F. ex. tranfert the module with ALL "Latest Site Additions" to the Left SIDE (as said above), but leave at the Center of the Frontpage only the Main, "big" Articles, with substantial contents, and transfert the BRIEF NEWS somewhere else (i.e. visible at the Frontpage only as Links with Headlines).

At least that, can it be done, and how ?
Title: Re: Urgent : How to make BRIEF NEWS visible, at a Special Section of the Frontpage ?
Post by: ks-net on November 26, 2008, 00:07:10
elxis modules can be copied and modified ...
module frontpage has parameters for image-size word-count more-link columns and of course custom css-sufix   etc.

iam not sure if  it is possible to work together 2 frontpage modules (this stands  only for fp module not other)
if it is possible.. then you got what you want...
can be interdependent just set what section-category will take care.

you can try...
Title: Re: Urgent : How to make BRIEF NEWS visible, at a Special Section of the Frontpa
Post by: Sunlight on November 26, 2008, 00:15:43
elxis modules can be copied and modified ...
module frontpage has parameters for image-size word-count more-link columns and of course custom css-sufix   etc.

iam not sure if  it is possible to work together 2 frontpage modules (this stands  only for fp module not other)
if it is possible.. then you got what you want...
can be interdependent just set what section-category will take care.

you can try...

Unfortunately, we can't risk to loose too much Time and/or damage the Frontpage with uncertain "tests"...

Isn't there any Simple, efficient and reliable way to publish a Series of BRIEF NEWS, placed at a Side of the Frontpage, with Elxis ?
Title: Re: Urgent : How to make BRIEF NEWS visible, at a Special Section of the Frontpage ?
Post by: ks-net on November 26, 2008, 01:48:23
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with uncertain "tests"...


sometimes must work and by your self....

elxis is  free.... but people spent weeks to build that milion lines of code..

can't you make 5 clicks to see if this works and  fits your needs????

5sec is all the time you need... only the time you spent to write this post...

are you waiting for a miracle .... you just want thinks to happened?

PS.
None told you to risk to damage your frontpage?
Probably you didn't understood what i said.
if need to understand how elxis works the faster way is to start reeding some guides
https://www.elxis.org/guides/
then things will be easier for you.




Title: Re: Urgent : How to make BRIEF NEWS visible, at a Special Section of the Frontpage ?
Post by: ks-net on November 26, 2008, 02:11:55
OK I checked for you

2 frontpage module wont work together-

you can edit module frontpage like this:
-Publish  to a side
-set column=1
-set size of image( or hide image)
-set morelink or not
-set text leght
-set the id's of section-cats to grab from the news items
-numder of items to display

that staff is common task for elxis...
you are a niewby.. ok... you must read that guides above.... they will help  you a lot.


Title: Re: Urgent : How to make BRIEF NEWS visible, at a Special Section of the Frontpage ?
Post by: Sunlight on March 13, 2009, 23:58:07
OK I checked for you

2 frontpage module wont work together-

you can edit module frontpage like this:
-Publish  to a side
-set column=1
-set size of image( or hide image)
-set morelink or not
-set text leght
-set the id's of section-cats to grab from the news items
-numder of items to display

that staff is common task for elxis...
you are a niewby.. ok... you must read that guides above.... they will help  you a lot.


Thanks for the try, ks-net, but we didn't have the TIME to "test" all that staff, and we couldn't risk to damage a website which should have started and run fast, with more and more content each week...

As for the "Guide"'s that you indicated, we didn't find yet any comprehensive Guide Book for Elxis' Administration, which would explain, in a crystal-clear manner, how to use all Elxis' potentialities.

May be, if anyone got together all "Help" items contained inside Elxis "Administration", and classified them correctly, (adding may be one or two more things), this could become an "Elxis' Guide Book" in the future.


>>> But, meanwhile, the NEED to find a SIMPLE and safe way to publish a series of Lines with Headlines containing "BRIEF News", fex. at one of the Columns of Elxis' Frontpage, has become even more URGENT !

=> Isn't really any such simple and safe way to do it ?
Title: Re: Urgent : How to make BRIEF NEWS visible, at a Special Section of the Frontpage ?
Post by: ks-net on March 14, 2009, 01:20:53
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Thanks for the try, ks-net, but we didn't have the TIME to "test" all that staff, and we couldn't risk to damage a website which should have started and run fast, with more and more content each week...

Do you thing that i could ever suggest something that will damage peoples site?
And you think that this staff is a lot of staff?

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>>> But, meanwhile, the NEED to find a SIMPLE and safe way to publish a series of Lines with Headlines containing "BRIEF News", fex. at one of the Columns of Elxis' Frontpage, has become even more URGENT !

=> Isn't really any such simple and safe way to do it ?

no one guide you through a risky way...
all post above tells you only common ways to access what you want...

So i guess that you didn't even try to open Mod-frontpage from modules page inside administrator...
and you didn't tried any of what i told above to see if they are fitting to your needs! am i wrong?
If you don't want to try ... 
Title: Re: Urgent : How to make BRIEF NEWS visible, at a Special Section of the Frontpage ?
Post by: Sunlight on March 14, 2009, 05:02:40
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>>> But, meanwhile, the NEED to find a SIMPLE and safe way to publish a series of Lines with Headlines containing "BRIEF News", fex. at one of the Columns of Elxis' Frontpage, has become even more URGENT !

=> Isn't really any such simple and safe way to do it ?

... So i guess that you didn't even try to open Mod-frontpage from modules page inside administrator...
and you didn't tried any of what i told above to see if they are fitting to your needs! am i wrong?
If you don't want to try ... 

We don't want to loose Frontpage module's capacity to display recent items in small cubes, in 2 or 3 columns, at the top of the first page.

What is needed is the possibility to add (aside : Left or Right) a Series of Links to "Brief News", which will be added to the longer NewsReportages, already exisiting at the top of the 1rst page.

(Maybe one of your Templates could be better adapted for that purpose, - f.ex. that one which shows a World-map and a Clock at its Header ?).
Title: Re: Urgent : How to make BRIEF NEWS visible, at a Special Section of the Frontpage ?
Post by: ks-net on March 14, 2009, 13:16:19
Ok ..you might find this interesting>>
https://forum.elxis.org/index.php?topic=3058.msg19081#msg19081

other...
to display news.. there are many ways: newsflashes, UDC, latest articles,
which is the  best choice? depends on how and from where the content will pulled out.... and the way they display content!

you have to try them and find the best one!
Title: Re: Urgent : How to make BRIEF NEWS visible, at a Special Section of the Frontpage ?
Post by: Sunlight on March 15, 2009, 01:13:24

Ok ..you might find this interesting>>
https://forum.elxis.org/index.php?topic=3058.msg19081#msg19081

other...
to display news.. there are many ways: newsflashes, UDC, latest articles,
which is the  best choice? depends on how and from where the content will pulled out.... and the way they display content!

you have to try them and find the best one!

We followed your link and uploaded UCD module.

But it only gives an "ERROR" message :

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PHP WARNING
PHP: Invalid argument supplied for foreach()
uri: index.php
path: /components/com_frontpage/frontpage.php
version: Elxis 2008.0 Stable rev1891 [ Olympus ] 10-February-2008 00:39 GMT+2
WARNING(2): /home/www/a86cb97deebffd5af2cbaf5b2558384e/web/modules/mod_ucd.php, line 192

+ It disfigures our website ! What should be done ?


During UDC's Installation, a warning said to  :

- " Make sure you defined at least one "content source ID" (for section, category, content item etc.) for the module to work!".

What does it mean, and how can it be done ?...


(That's why we didn't want just to .."try", this or that, without sufficient, sure and clear Info. It can provoke damages and an awfull waste of precious TIME !)


Title: Re: Urgent : How to make BRIEF NEWS visible, at a Special Section of the Frontpage ?
Post by: Sunlight on March 15, 2009, 02:18:35
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OK, the "Error" is corrected if you write any "Content Source ID" (one or more) inside the installed "UCD" module, at the Administration panel. (f.ex. 5,6,7,8,9)

But, how can we choose the ORDER of the News-Items (contents) displayed ?

- UCD can be set to display "the most recent", but can't we CHOOSE the order and the contents we want ? (Apparently not, since we wrote a series of contents' IDs, but UCD did not take that into account, at least not for all of them).

- What exactly means, and how to use (fex. combined with the "required" "Content Source ID") the questionaire asking to determine a "Content Source TYPE" ?
Title: Re: Urgent : How to make BRIEF NEWS visible, at a Special Section of the Frontpage ?
Post by: ks-net on March 15, 2009, 02:54:51
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+ It disfigures our website ! What should be done ?
if you think that makes problems or not working as you expected this or any other extension you can simply unistall..
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(That's why we didn't want just to .."try", this or that, without sufficient, sure and clear Info. It can provoke damages and an awfull waste of precious TIME !)

sorry that you couldn't make it work...

if you think that wasted more time than we all here did trying helping you then i must say that...
i am sorry  that waisted your time!

lets find a solution to your supposed damages!

1-unistall ucd  if you think that damages on fits you
2-replace again module_frontpage files or what ever files with the originals(if you had overwrite some..only if)

i think that you can afford 2-3 minutes waist of time to do these ... aren't you!

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for your next post:

if you decide you want to try ucd you have to spend some time to explore how it works... only you know if this fits your needs
it has many option so you need to spend some time before decide if it is what you need.
the same happens with any other module component or elxis it's self

there are many choices and ways to achieve the same thing ... so time is needed!

lets give an example how to select content to display and from where IDs are pulled out (the ids you inserted probably wrong)
example:
Content source type:content item
Content source IDs (required): 11,17,21
Ordering:ordering

this will display certain contain items with the order we have assigned in content manager .. not by date ore title

see also screenshoot below





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Title: Re: Urgent : How to make BRIEF NEWS visible, at a Special Section of the Frontpage ?
Post by: Sunlight on March 15, 2009, 03:17:20
Again : OK. it's done !

=> To put "Brief News" in a desired order, it's better to create a new Section and, inside it, a new Category, which takes automatically by Elxis an ID number, (f.ex. 15).

In the UCD Module, choose : "Category" as "Content Source TYPE", and its specific ID number (fex. 15) as "Content Source ID".

If you have chosen for the UCD Module to show the Brief News' content in the order f.ex. of the "most recent first", then it will display them according to their Dates.

(NDLR : We did, at first, as you advised about the "Ordering" choice of display, guessing as you did, but, it doesn't show the News according to their "ID" numbers : only with their "Order" numbers, which are differend. Thus we simplified by using the above mentioned way).

In fact, it was easy, and apparently it works well.

But we had to waste HOURS to find out something which could have been done fast and simple, if there was a full Guide-Book for Elxis. 

Let's hope that these Notes may help other people...
Title: Re: How to make a series of BRIEF NEWS at a Special Section of 1st page ? (SOLVED)
Post by: ks-net on March 15, 2009, 03:56:35
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(NDLR : We did, at first, as you advised about the "Ordering" choice of display, guessing as you did, but, it doesn't show the News according to their "ID" numbers : only with their "Order" numbers, which are differend. Thus we simplified by using the above mentioned way).

exactly .. by order, ids used to identify contents cats sections not for ordering...

-in my example symptomatically ids and listing order matched ... if i use blue arrows the ucd will display the new order
- no matter the order you insert ids in ucd  that never play a role!

i am happy that you find your own way ... and you will find more.. be sure! ucd can give at least 10 ways more displaying content.

only needs time to explore your tools!

as for the documentation  we work hard  to bring online  a wiki ... focused first on newbies!