Elxis CMS Forum
Support => General => Topic started by: MKRD.info on August 04, 2010, 02:36:40
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Hello to all
I couldn't locate an off-topic forum thread, so I'm posting here.
In evaluating CMSes, I have the following requirements: CMS selection criteria
Small CMSes may be attractive in the beginning, but users start bumping into limitations down the road.
List of other rejected CMSes. This list also contains specific notes on this CMS and what I noted the problems to be.
I would love to hear feedback on the selection criteria.
Edit by datahell: I removed your links as I consider them as SPAM. Your evaluation has nothing to do with reality.
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LoL!!! Are you kidding us ???
You evaluate CMSs and there is no criteria about quality of code and mostly SECURITY?? Are you going to recommend a CMS that "may be installed in any directory", but is leaky like a strainer and provide no security at all and is easy to hack ?? Propably you do not know how to program or you are just bored to dig into code and evaluate sacerity. Either way your evaluation is bad...
Mambo [http://www.mamboserver.com/. only Joomla! will be evaluated. I hate forks.
That had me rolling on the floor! Joomla is a fork of Mambo started in 2005, not vice versa... I wonder how thorough your search was.
I don't care how you evaluate things.. Do as you please, but state on your page that the evaluation reflects ONLY your personal opinion and do have in the same page criteria and results; otherway it is misleading for your readers!!
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Το evaluate CMSes it's difficult process.
You must check a lot of parameters to do it so.
Quality of Code ( Number 1 for me) , Security ( also Number 1) , SEO techniques ( also Number 1), Support , community resources.!
Before Elxis i used many CMS like joomla , drupal , wordpress.!
Elxis impressed me so much that i don't change it with anyone.
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Have a look here: http://www.cmscritic.com/top-5-seo-friendly-content-management-systems/
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What about if this is a SPAM message? ;D ;D
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How about Liverpool ;D ;D
Baaaaa i don't think so!
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I have just found out that the post has been replied to. Your forum must not have notification on by default.
To answer questions - Joomla is a fork of Mambo. Even though it is, I picked to look at joomla instead. But I do hate forks.
This is not a spam message.
"Το evaluate CMSes it's difficult process. You must check a lot of parameters to do it so. Quality of Code ( Number 1 for me) , Security ( also Number 1) , SEO techniques ( also Number 1), Support , community resources.!"
Yeah, no kidding. I'm a single guy doing this for free. You want me to evaluate security of code for a hundred CMSes? I picked other easier things to evaluate by. BTW, the size of the "security" forum is a good indication whether code is secure or not.
Support and community resources is a part of criteria.
As far as giving a CMS good evaluation, that's up to developer, not me. It's their job. I'm just eliminating a few choices for them.
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I have just found out that the post has been replied to. Your forum must not have notification on by default.
You can click on Show new replies to your posts. at the top of your screen while you have logged in or you can enable notification and you 'll receive an e-mail message about.
BTW,
i absolutely understand you.
But what can i do to choice a cms with full support team and with a lot members on their community when it's source code has serious security and functionality issues ?
I tell you that like a visitor of your website.
// On my place people says: "When you are going to do something , do it well" !
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Yes, I turned notifications on.
Regarding security - there's one of the largest CMSes with a huge security related forum. I won't name names. That's up to a smart developer.
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That's why i disagree with you.
Elxis Team and especially Datahell has developed a component for elxis cms which called it : eForum (http://www.elxis-downloads.com/downloads/forums/255.html)
eForum Documentation on Elxis Wiki : http://wiki.elxis.org/wiki/Category:Eforum
Unfortunately we can't change this smf (http://www.simplemachines.org/)version of forum because a lot of questions has been answered here.
Can you analize what do you mean by telling us : " a huge security related forum"?
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That's why i disagree with you.
Can you analize what do you mean by telling us : " a huge security related forum"?
What do you disagree about? I don't get it.
Security problem - one of the big CMSes (WP, Drupal, Joomla), I won't tell you which, is so unsecure they have a large forum just for security issues. Even though absolutely every reviewer and developer would think those three are the only CMSes you'll ever need.
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I disagree with the criteria of choosing or analyzing one CMS.
Government sites , big e-shop sites etc with a lot of visitors each month use elxis!
Each developer has his own e-mail that somebody can communicate with him if there is a security or whatever issue.
I don't believe that if one cms has a section on his community forum called "security" then the summary is that this CMS is secure!
Otherwise i believe that on one forum which has no mentions about security, then this CMS is at least more secure than the other above.
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I don't believe that if one cms has a section on his community forum called "security" then the summary is that this CMS is secure!
Large security flaws related forum = means that IT IS NOT secure.
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Security problem - one of the big CMSes (WP, Drupal, Joomla), I won't tell you which, is so unsecure they have a large forum just for security issues.
Let me guess.... Its Drupal. Lets not mention only the super duper features, but also major problems, that someone might face.
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Ok. I misunderstood that.! :-\
It's a major thing for me to know that one CMS developed by one or maximum 2 developers and not by hundred.
The other big section is SEO and Google for me.!
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In Elxis we follow a different approach when thinking of subjects such as community, updates, security and development.
Elxis SVN is private for some reasons that is not here the place and the time to analyze why.
If a security problem appears we release a patch within the same day.
Elxis community is an official team of members that help us with Elxis development in several ways.
We discuss some things in private without publishing much info. This is a way to protect Elxis from bad people.
We focus on security and stability more than the layout and style. We have discontinued or changed the way some features work in order to limit possible security flaws even if there were no security issues.
We have tools to analyze the Elxis filesystem and updates status.
We have tools to prevent and/or notify us about attacks to Elxis sites.
All Elxis sites have access internally to the Elxis remote/updates center.
We even provide free personal support to people having problems with Elxis installation or configuration.
Elxis uses modern programming style and PHP5 a long time before other CMSs do so. For instance Elxis works with registered globals off since 2006 while joomla did it just before 1-2 years.
Finally I will report just some of the built-in security systems Elxis has, many years before joomla do something like these.
CSRF attack prevetion. Login page cloack. Elxis Defender (protection againtst XSS attacks). FloodBlocker. SSL switch. integrated updates center in real time. Elxis shell pre-installer generates a highly recommended installation enviroment. SEO PRO URLs and URL filtering. System templates with pages such as 404. Updiag tool for filesystem check. Integrated database manager/backup. Editable/expandable user groups and user access. Third-party extensions verification process. And much more.
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That's why I consider any other cms a toy ;D