Elxis CMS Forum
Extensions => Components => Topic started by: Dennis on June 13, 2010, 17:54:51
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Hi,
why isn’t there any warning a newsletter sent out by the system will name everyone in the CC field???
This is far out ridiculous and very unprofessional using system that was complaining about years ago which sent to all on CC!!!
How can this be prevented in future sending? Sign up to autoresponder services haha!!!
edit:
Should mention I use the IOS newsletter components.
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some people just not knowing how to correct configure that component!
set ...
Recipients per step =1
One per recipient =yes
Send method =php mail
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Finally it is not so unprofessional
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some people just not knowing how to correct configure that component!
some people just not knowing how to correct configure that component!
Well, for the first place, configuring things would be OK if there were any info about it needs configuration to avoid it to send everyone’s info to everyone on the list. There is no such info …
One per recipient:
Send one message per recipient. Works only if send method is PHP Mail! If this is enabled, IOS Newsletters will sent one e-mail per recipient. So, if you send messages to 50 people, 50 e-mails will be sent. If you use this feature lower the Recipients Per Step number. If this feature is disabled, 1 e-mail will be sent in each step for all recipients.
Recipients per step:
IOS Newsletter to limit server load dispatches messages in steps. Set here the number of the e-mails that will be sent in each step. Lower this limit if you see that each step takes too much time to be executed.
If you are referring to this here:
So, if you send messages to 50 people, 50 e-mails will be sent.
Then it does not say it will send out the whole list to everyone in CC field!!
One thing you programmers forget too often is what you take for granted is not always taken as granted for non programmers.
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how much more info to write someone?
you do not need to be a programmer to know that there is two ways to send emails to lists
a- one email per recipient
b- one email cc to all people ... and you have to know that cc or bcc emails always list all the recipients at the email header... this is not elxis technique
but a universal behaviour.. this is how the protocol behaves.... that is! that is what any email client will do when cc emails to a list of recipients!
you had to know! also you had to know that none email-client will print a warning when cc an email!
some email clients have also relative options to how to send a mail in a list of recipients, most clients i know they just cc the email and they print no warning about this!
elxis has more info and more options to control the delivery of the newsletter from any other email client that i know!
is just what i said above.. you don't know what all this basic staff means and thats why you can not configure it properly!
and thats why the forum exists.. for people that they don't know how to do things! is the place to ask prior to learn rather than posting ironical comments!
finally we are professional enough to develop and keep elxis up!
elxis says :
One per recipient: if yes then and only then ... will send 50 times the same mail to 50 receipts else will send 1 time the same mail to 50 people(the only way to do this is => cc)
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Let me ask you two questions
1. Why should anyone running a website want to send everyone’s names and email addresses to the whole list when sending out a simple newsletter?
2. Why should anyone even need to give it a consideration these option even exist?
There must be a very good reason everyone say they will not share prospects info with anyone to get them to sign up!!
Just using common sense would never give me the idea this would need any special consideration there is an option to send everyone on the list each other names and email addresses but, common sense isn’t so common anymore!!!
is just what i said above.. you don't know what all this basic staff means and thats why you can not configure it properly!
I totally agree, I didn’t understand the way it would cc the whole list so I took the info given on IOS newsletter component and asked a friend which is Certified Adobe Professional how to understand this and here is the reply:
Ummm...this is confusing...and I speak only english. Okay, I am not familiar with your system or how the newsletters work with it but are you saying it went out and all the people saw everyone’s emails? If so, that is like a serious issue...seriously...that is a major programming issue. This doesn’t make a lot of sense to me!
If that is not enough to explain for you how confusing even misleading this explanation can be if not make clear what they exactly do, I can ask other friends (native English speakers) with different degrees in computers and in English how they understand this?
elxis has more info and more options to control the delivery of the newsletter from any other email client that i know!
If this is the fact, why can’t I send myself a test email before I publish it to my list? I know of many CMS’s far as good as Elxis where I can do that but, don’t allow me to cc the whole list info to the list!
As I said before, many programmers make this mistake and take it for granted everyone else will put the same understanding into things as they do.
I am just lucky I am not located in US, I would be sued for sharing info as it is stated on my website it is exactly what I will not do just as on everyone else websites luring people to sign up with their list.
Yes I was frustrated when I notice the list in CC but, I hope this accident will make everyone learn from it.
how much more info to write someone?
you do not need to be a programmer to know that there is two ways to send emails to lists
a- one email per recipient
b- one email cc to all people ... and you have to know that cc or bcc emails always list all the recipients at the email header... this is not elxis technique
but a universal behaviour.. this is how the protocol behaves.... that is! that is what any email client will do when cc emails to a list of recipients!
you had to know! also you had to know that none email-client will print a warning when cc an email!
some email clients have also relative options to how to send a mail in a list of recipients, most clients i know they just cc the email and they print no warning about this!
elxis has more info and more options to control the delivery of the newsletter from any other email client that i know!
is just what i said above.. you don't know what all this basic staff means and thats why you can not configure it properly!
and thats why the forum exists.. for people that they don't know how to do things! is the place to ask prior to learn rather than posting ironical comments!
finally we are professional enough to develop and keep elxis up!
elxis says :
One per recipient: if yes then and only then ... will send 50 times the same mail to 50 receipts else will send 1 time the same mail to 50 people(the only way to do this is => cc)
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hello
Can we add/enable Bcc option to make recipients invisible to all of the other recipients of the message ?
Is this possible with a little "edit" off the code?
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Just a tip
Sending massive emails with Elxis 4.x is as simple as this:
$to = array ('john@example.com', 'mary@example.com', 'peter@example.com');
eFactory::getElxis()->sendmail ('Test', 'This is a sample message', '', null, 'plain', $to);
BCC is also supported as well as attachments and html emails.
So if someone has a list of recipients can write these 2 lines of code and send the emails. To manage the list of recipients via Elxis you need a small component (any volunteer to built it?)
More documentation on Elxis Docs (https://www.elxis.net/docs/developers/tutorials/sending-emails.html)
EDIT: I reached 8000 posts, wow!