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Support => General => Topic started by: datahell on December 20, 2007, 20:27:43

Title: Elxis 2008 demo site (discuss)
Post by: datahell on December 20, 2007, 20:27:43
Use this post to discuss Elxis demo site (http://www.elxis-demo.com) announcement made on this topic:
https://forum.elxis.org/index.php?topic=1592
Title: Re: Elxis 2008 demo site (discuss)
Post by: CREATIVE Options on December 20, 2007, 20:45:32
Welcome Elxis 2008 !
I would like to give my congrats to Elxis Team for this magnificent CMS.

As a business man I have an PROFESSIONAL tool in my hands, and a lot of my congratulation I get from my customers it is from project made with Elxis CMS.

And as I say in such a case:
The "tools" make the "technician".

Congratulations once again Elxis Team, and remember all of as member and guest of Elxis Forum we are waiting the release for the public.

Nick Sirigos.

Title: Re: Elxis 2008 demo site (discuss)
Post by: ricard on December 20, 2007, 21:13:23
Superb! Thanks datahell for the hard work!
Title: Re: Elxis 2008 demo site (discuss)
Post by: Ivan Trebješanin on December 20, 2007, 21:30:23
Sorry, I posted in announcements section... I was gone off... Just want to congatulate Elxis Team for all the hard work they did. I wish elxis.org lots of happy new members and lots of new happy clients to GoUP Inc
Title: Re: Elxis 2008 demo site (discuss)
Post by: c8620p on December 21, 2007, 01:45:16
Nice and clear, faster and as always a newborn CMS from GOUP.
Congratulations!!!
Keep on the good job guys!!!
Title: Re: Elxis 2008 demo site (discuss)
Post by: momo-i on December 21, 2007, 01:54:17
Wonderful! Japanese back-end runs without any troubles! Thanks datahell for the hard work!
Title: Re: Elxis 2008 demo site (discuss)
Post by: Kestas on December 21, 2007, 11:00:00
Well done, Elxis Team! Big congrats for the work you’ve done from Lithuania. Newborn Elxis 2008 seems to be really powerful tool and I enjoyed every second while testing demo site ;)

Good luck and keep improving Elxis!
Title: Re: Elxis 2008 demo site (discuss)
Post by: Reza Faghihi on December 21, 2007, 12:35:22
nice job not what i exactly expected but it looks great waiting to see the change in source code

btw i see something strange in bot managment when i go to http://www.elxis-demo.com/administrator/index2.php?option=com_mambots
at first it shows more than 20 bots but when i changed limit box to 50 it just show the last 6 bots and pagenavigation starts to work strange
 ???
Title: Re: Elxis 2008 demo site (discuss)
Post by: parrotred on December 21, 2007, 12:46:07
Fantastic job guys. Now that people are seeing the the great work that you have put togather They will realise the power of elxis 2008.
Just a bit concenred over the update path and process. I know you will find a way and probably would have already found a way.

I am be happy for you guys i guess this is just the right time for you celebrate over christmas and new year after putting in lot of hardwork.

Cheers
Title: Re: Elxis 2008 demo site (discuss)
Post by: datahell on December 21, 2007, 14:17:20
I am very happy that you liked it!
To Reza: The same happened in 2006.x. It is not strange. After saving a bot the "type" of the bot is transfered via the POST request and being used as a filter in bots display list.

To parrotred: It is easy to create the update script and we will finally do it. The hard job is to set up your current online site under the 2008 version. This is a task that each web master should do alone in it's site. It is easy to mesh up your site and destroy it... So, if you are unsure contact GO UP Inc or other experienced user/company. The update script does not have the human intelligence to determine if the changes you have made are good or bad.

What the update script will do is:
1. Update Elxis 2006.x database structure to 2008.x structure
2. Insert default values to db columns that are required by Elxis 2008 (i.e. seo titles, user profiles data etc)
3. Insert new rows where needed (i.e. new permissions, system menu links etc )
4. Install component SoftDisk and initialize it
5. Install 3 new modules
6. Check if you have updated all files to 2008 version (updiag hashes)

What you should do:
1. Manually update all files (the update script will tell you which files you must update but their number is very big, almost 1000! )
2. Edit all modules, tools and bots because parameters have been changed.
3. Edit all content items, categories and sections because of seo titles and parameters.
4. Edit/check/update all default components because they are changes (i.e. polls, weblinks, syndicate etc)
5. Create a new template that follows the 2008 standards.
6. Update modules positions
7. Enable seo pro
8. Maybe update links, users and anything else can be updated!

We are not responsible for any damages you may do to your site during the update!

The update procedure is a hard task and requires time. It is normally to take you 1-3 days to complete the update especially in a large site.
Title: Re: Elxis 2008 demo site (discuss)
Post by: nikos65 on December 21, 2007, 14:57:50
As always a awesome nice job from Elxis Team .Nothing less.. :)
Title: Re: Elxis 2008 demo site (discuss)
Post by: Reza Faghihi on December 21, 2007, 19:01:05
to datahell i know what do you mean about the navigation system but i dont experince this problem with other versions at this point im not sure about the problem i will check it again
also its seems in 2008 version the overlib library for tooltips has been changed to ajax tooltip and it seems it uses prototype to generate it is there any plan to implement protoype as default Ajax framework for elxis ??

and here is the suggestion maybe it could be added in later releases
add Detail veiw in media manager  i had made this style for elxis 2004 and it was not bad to have detail view for files
hope to see the official release soon
Title: Re: Elxis 2008 demo site (discuss)
Post by: zepelin57 on December 22, 2007, 01:48:29
What beautiful job !  :o

Now, it should be available to that translators could finalize translations for Elxis be totally perfect.

Personally, I would like to take advantage of a few days off between Christmas and New Year to do so, is it possible ? ;)

@+
Title: Re: Elxis 2008 demo site (discuss)
Post by: Farhad Sakhaei on December 22, 2007, 11:22:16
it is very clean and with quality , thank you ELXIS Team and congratulations , i hope that ELXIS 2008 will be the first winner of the best open source cms award  ;)
Title: Re: Elxis 2008 demo site (discuss)
Post by: armpouniotis on December 22, 2007, 11:41:21
If the new version of Elxis gives me the opportunity to display content items of specific categories into specific positions of my templates then I can do a lot of magic....

Christos Armpouniotis
www.kosmosnet.gr

Title: Re: Elxis 2008 demo site (discuss)
Post by: Farhad Sakhaei on December 22, 2007, 11:58:18
armpouniotis , this is very simple , even you can implement it with elxis 2006.4  :D , you can use Latest News module and set category that you want , and then put this module in any position you want ...  ;) also you can get a copy of it and use another same for other categories , so go and do lots of magic , also i think DATAHELL is David Caperfield and ELIASAN is David Blane  :D ;)
Title: Re: Elxis 2008 demo site (discuss)
Post by: datahell on December 22, 2007, 14:03:10
No no, I am not David Caperfield. I prefer to be Chris Angel!  :)
Title: Re: Elxis 2008 demo site (discuss)
Post by: fivecats on December 29, 2007, 11:31:00
Congratulations on a great CMS

I have been using Joomla for a year now and have now started looking for an alternative especially after a lot of third party developers decided not to support 1.5.

I really like this cms as it has integrated many features which are separate components in Joomla, such as language support, seo, enhanced security such as captcha imaages, and enhanced user management.

One comment on the seo. Will you be adding extra features to seo pro so that certain links/components can have translated urls. I have noticed for example the link for register password does not change when you change to a different language.

For me there two things that would prevent me from changing to elxis 2008 at the moment. Firstly, I use gallery2 on two of my sites and a bridge to that gallery would be excellent and I couldn't comtemplate transferring and setting up all of my images on another gallery. Secondly some form of google/yahoo mapping. Maybe mapping could be integrated into the contacts component.

Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Elxis 2008 demo site (discuss)
Post by: datahell on December 29, 2007, 11:53:18
Thanks for your kind words.

Elxis' SEO PRO is a fully expandable system. You can create your own extensions for any component you wish (just one file, very easy creation for a php developer).

The link for the registration is no need to be changed as it is a system link (not existing in mambo/joomla) and not related to content! Elxis multi-lingual enviroment is totally something different than i.e. mambelfish. In Elxis a link/page can be available for more than 1 language. System links are available in all languages (you can also change this if you wish - elxis is fully customizable) and page content is automatically displayed to your current language.

There is a commercial sitemap component available for Elxis 2008 (and 2006) created by me that also generates google and yahoo sitemaps.

You can create bridges for Elxis. Elxis has an integrated bridge system for anything although the bridges finally are not good solution in general and we may remove this feature in the future.
Title: Re: Elxis 2008 demo site (discuss)
Post by: CREATIVE Options on December 29, 2007, 12:28:07
Datahell, I thing so fivecats, meant that he need to add a street / satellite map (from Google / Yahoo Services) inside the contact, and by using the photo as solution, and not a sitemap.
Title: Re: Elxis 2008 demo site (discuss)
Post by: datahell on December 29, 2007, 13:27:24
Now I understood, you mean normal map (ie google maps) not site map. I think this is very easy to do. You can do it with a module or a bot. Elxis 2008 allows you to load any module anywhere regardless it's position by calling it's name.

Example:

elxLoadModule('mod_googlemap', -2);

It is very easy to add this line everywhere you wish. I don't find these maps too useful feature for the most of the users but we will see if we integrate this feature in Elxis' core in the next Elxis sub-version (2008.1).
Title: Re: Elxis 2008 demo site (discuss)
Post by: fivecats on December 29, 2007, 14:26:22
Hi Datahell

Thanks for your replies.

I understand your views about bridges and I will probably look at another gallery option.

I am pleased that you are thinking about adding google maps to contacts as I think that this is a useful option to have if you are a business that has an office such as estate agent, hotel,etc.
Title: Re: Elxis 2008 demo site (discuss)
Post by: fivecats on December 29, 2007, 17:01:12
Just some further thoughts on seo.

I have noticed with the demo that elxis cms has the same faults as joomla:-

 
Perhaps you should think of incorporating a joomlatwork patch as standard for elxis - http://www.joomlatwork.com/products/free_products_for_joomla/sef_patch_joomla.html (http://www.joomlatwork.com/products/free_products_for_joomla/sef_patch_joomla.html)

which would also give people more control over metatags without having to install patchs or third party components. For example The joomlatwork patch has been downloaded 80000 times, so a lot of users are interested in what the patch has to offer.
Title: Re: Elxis 2008 demo site (discuss)
Post by: datahell on December 29, 2007, 18:11:18
The timestamp at the end of the file has it's reason of existence. It is the time of the page generation and I think it is used by search engines. I also think that it has something to do with xhtml. I have nt checked that, I am not sure.

The expired headers forces browser to retrieve the pages from the site and not from their cache.

Elxis SEO PRO generates automatically meta tags. The importance of meta tags contentiously decreases by many search engines. For example, google does not care about meta tags.

Besides these I will check the sef patch. There are sure some things that can be done to improve SEO PRO (i.e. more work on error pages), but I think it is very good and much-much better than the old method. It is a real SEO not a semi-seo as before. We will see how things will go with the first Elxis release and we will do whatever fixes/changes needed at 2008.1.

Thank you fivecats, you information are important to us.