A solution for shopping cart

[datahell]

Forget the bridge solution.

My recommendations:
1. For large stores: use a standalone shopping cart (Magento is nice), not elxis. Do not try to bridge it with Elxis CMS.
2. For small to medium stores: Create an Elxis component.
3. For small stores with few products you can follow a smart and easy solution: Use content items to display your products and a payment component/bot for the payments. There is a joomla component working like this. You can also use my free bot for payments via paypal.

If you wish to built a shopping cart component for Elxis I can not participate, as I have no free time, but I will help as much as I can. That component should have the following characteristics:
1. Use Elxis native core functions (utf-8, file manager, access system, language and rtl, UPL for sending notifications in user's preferable language, adodb compatible, installation using XML schema, multi-lingual XML parameters)
2. Object Oriented (OO) programming using PHP 5.
3. Compatible with MySQL, PostgreSQL, Oracle, msSQL
4. Ability to pay online at least via paypal, authorize.net and proxy pay 3.
5. User should be able to create unlimited categories and sub-categories.
6. Ability to enter each product title and description in a number of languages (like the Reservations component, I can show you how to create a dialect system).
7. Product features and variants (some of them may affect the final price).
8. VAT zones for proper VAT calculation.
etc...

Notice: component EDir for elxis 2006 had a shopping cart extension that supported most of the above features. I can send you some sample files to help you although they are copyrighted by me.

A shopping cart component needs A LOT OF WORK to be created. Shopping carts are very complex and difficult applications.

[CREATIVE Options]

And I have select to setup my shop it with the Magento.

Tell us Sirigos, don't you have the same feeling about Magneto? I had an impression that it is slower then, eg. OScommerce.

I have use Magento in IIS & Linux, I have to say that in IIS yes it was slow in some processes.
But in Linux it was perfect !I have insert more than 5000 products plus 2 sub-products to each product, so I have ~ 15000 products.

[datahell]

If magento was slow imagine how slow will be an Elxis-magento bridge that will load 2 huge APIs simultaneous. A bridge has also many serious other problems and limitations...

[Farhad Sakhaei]

We can alter VM to compatible with Elxis if there are any issues , I'm ready Ivan, If you interested we can make a SVN and start

[Farhad Sakhaei]

Sorry i didn't read latest posts 

[Farhad Sakhaei]

Forget the bridge solution.

Notice: component EDir for elxis 2006 had a shopping cart extension that supported most of the above features. I can send you some sample files to help you although they are copyrighted by me.

A shopping cart component needs A LOT OF WORK to be created. Shopping carts are very complex and difficult applications.

About extension for EDIR I interested ...

What about bringing VirtueMart to Elxis ?

[Ivan Trebješanin]

What about bringing VirtueMart to Elxis ?

As I told you, VM can be converted almost in about 1 hour of work. But, that is enough to remove all VISIBLE issues... I think there might be a lot of hidden issues, that you will notice only in real-life situations. I am NOT ready to support it completely. There would be thousands of questions from thousands of users... got my point?

[Farhad Sakhaei]

Yes , But I mean we can read all codes and make changes in every where that need ...

[Ivan Trebješanin]

Yes , But I mean we can read all codes and make changes in every where that need ...

Yes, we could, but we are not the original authors of this component, and we cannot know it so well as they do. I am not interested in spending months to know only one component. Whatsmore, it is a Mambo/Joomla! component. If authors of this component don't care to spend 1 hour to modify their component for Elxis, I don't see the reason why we should. I have a lot of contacts with Joomla component developers, and they are interested in posting their listings at elxis-downloads.com, but they don't care if their components even work on Elxis! They even propose that Elxis should be made more compatible!!! They think that Elxis should fit their components. It's like someone who makes tires for cars, and he complains that your car is not fit for his tires. Madness. Components like VM have large communities, donations, marketing... and I don't see any reason why one or two guys like us should spend enormous time to do their work!
I will try to find that modified VM, and send it to you and we can make it compatible, but are you prepared to answer thousands of users questions?

[Farhad Sakhaei]

I continued the discuss in this topic 
http://forum.elxis.org/index.php?topic=2192.msg13007#msg13007

[datahell]

I don't know what happened, here is the new topic about this subject:

http://forum.elxis.org/index.php?topic=2194

[Amigamerlin]

If I can I would like to write what I think about ...
Virtuemart can be a good solution for small /medium business solution and having it compatible with ELXIs can be really a good thing for ELXIS since many user are really impressed from ELXIS but don't want to switch to since the lack of some important component; Virtuemart is one of them.

Having important components will help ELXIS 2008 to grow in popularity and in users.
Growing in popularity mean having the right attention of other developers that will look interested at ELXIS.

From the other side I think Ivan Trebješanin has right; the developer should make it compatible with ELXIS ... but if they don't want to do it ... we can't close our eyes.

This community is so great and has in there a lot of great guys that strongly believe in ELXIS 2008 ... well IMHO we have to do the first step forward ... we have to start and when is done let the developers know how their components works good under ELXIS 2008 (better than in joomla / mambo I can guess).

Yes ... maybe ton of questions will be make ... but as I wrote this community has a lot of talented guys that can answers .. not only the guy that has done the porting. 

Bye

[Amigamerlin]

Forget the bridge solution.

My recommendations:
1. For large stores: use a standalone shopping cart (Magento is nice), not elxis. Do not try to bridge it with Elxis CMS.
2. For small to medium stores: Create an Elxis component.
3. For small stores with few products you can follow a smart and easy solution: Use content items to display your products and a payment component/bot for the payments. There is a joomla component working like this. You can also use my free bot for payments via paypal.

If you wish to built a shopping cart component for Elxis I can not participate, as I have no free time, but I will help as much as I can. That component should have the following characteristics:
1. Use Elxis native core functions (utf-8, file manager, access system, language and rtl, UPL for sending notifications in user's preferable language, adodb compatible, installation using XML schema, multi-lingual XML parameters)
2. Object Oriented (OO) programming using PHP 5.
3. Compatible with MySQL, PostgreSQL, Oracle, msSQL
4. Ability to pay online at least via paypal, authorize.net and proxy pay 3.
5. User should be able to create unlimited categories and sub-categories.
6. Ability to enter each product title and description in a number of languages (like the Reservations component, I can show you how to create a dialect system).
7. Product features and variants (some of them may affect the final price).
8. VAT zones for proper VAT calculation.
etc...

Notice: component EDir for elxis 2006 had a shopping cart extension that supported most of the above features. I can send you some sample files to help you although they are copyrighted by me.

A shopping cart component needs A LOT OF WORK to be created. Shopping carts are very complex and difficult applications.

Hi mate,
for my minimum amount of time spent with Virtuemart and for what I can understand it has on it already most of your specification and can be a good start ... maybe Ivan can write detail about

[Coursar]

FreeWay & Joomla 1.5

[datahell]

Coursar you have the "Elxis Community" title in order to help, promote and support Elxis CMS and not to advertise other CMSs. If you wish to really support Elxis create an Elxis extension for Freeway or convert the Joomla's one to become compatible with Elxis.