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Support => General => Topic started by: Sunlight on March 18, 2009, 06:45:23
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How to open News-"boxes"' content at the Top of the 1st page (instead of down to the Middle) ?
Currently (with standard template okto) all "boxes", links, etc. containing Texts, Images, etc. open (after clicking on them) only towards the Middle of the Frontpage, obliging to scroll-down in order to see and read their content.
People who don't know that, see nothing at the Upper Half of the 1st page, and leave the Website, thinking that there was no Content inside the Boxes !
Because currently, the content of the opened box is displayed only after the 4 "Boxes", and after the "Read also", as well as after the "latest News"', etc., starting down at the second half of the 1st page, (which usually is not even seen at the Computer's screen, unless someone knows the problem, and scrolls-down to search and find it)...
=> In order to simplify things for New Readers, what should be done in order to be able to open the "boxes"' content (after clicking at them) to the Top of the 1st page, or, (if necessary) at another, independent page/window, (i.e. without the "boxes", the "read also" nor the "latest news", etc. which take the space of the upper half of the 1st page currently) ?
Thanks, if possible, for a clear answer, easy to understand by newbies...
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i would like to ask if you are using seo?
if not then strongly recommend to do so!
seems that you are using module frontpage in all of your pages....
why don't you assign it to your home page only ?
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i would like to ask if you are using seo?
if not then strongly recommend to do so!...
What relation ?
We suppose that it works since Elxis' installation. How can it be verified ?
... seems that you are using module frontpage in all of your pages....
why don't you assign it to your home page only ?
How can it be done ?
We tried to do as you said, but apparently this module is already "linked" to "Home page", and there is no obvious, apparent way to "assign" it as you advise.
=> TIME is running out, and the need for a crystal-clear, simple and efficient info on Elxis has become, since long, urgent !
An efficient website needs TIME to develop its substantial CONTENT, and it does not let more TIME to waste on elementary formal points, on how to use a software supposed to be easy and with the ambition to become Popular among millions of webmasters accross the World..
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The question raised remains still unanswered.
Isn't there any simple and efficient, crystal-clear solution ?
Elxis' readers need to be able to see at the top of the screen any page they chose , after they click to aprecise item.
Is it really so difficult to clearly explain how this elementary thing can be obtained, (i.e. without "Frontpage", etc. keeping always the top of the screen, even after readers click and select a precise item) ?
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Everything can be parametrized. What you get after the installation is a SAMPLE website. Normally you should edit everything and add your own stuff. You should also change the template and not use the sample one. You should set the modules to be displayed wherever you like. Every module has parameters. Edit the module to set if you wish titles to be displayed as links, etc. In the frontpage the "frontpage" module is being displayed by default. You can change that. You can also move the front page module to an other module position in order for the normal content to be first in the page.
You can do everything you like, just search a little Elxis and you will find the answers to your questions.
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i would like to ask if you are using seo?
if not then strongly recommend to do so!...
What relation ?
We suppose that it works since Elxis' installation. How can it be verified ?
... seems that you are using module frontpage in all of your pages....
why don't you assign it to your home page only ?
How can it be done ?
We tried to do as you said, but apparently this module is already "linked" to "Home page", and there is no obvious, apparent way to "assign" it as you advise.
=> TIME is running out, and the need for a crystal-clear, simple and efficient info on Elxis has become, since long, urgent !
An efficient website needs TIME to develop its substantial CONTENT, and it does not let more TIME to waste on elementary formal points, on how to use a software supposed to be easy and with the ambition to become Popular among millions of webmasters accross the World..
Administrator>>modules>>site modules:
module frontpage ... right place of page... click-select only your home-page...
to multiselect ctrl+click .
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... seems that you are using module frontpage in all of your pages....
why don't you assign it to your home page only ?
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We tried to do as you said, but apparently this module is already "linked" to "Home page", ....
Administrator>>modules>>site modules:
module frontpage ... right place of page... click-select only your home-page...
to multiselect ctrl+click .
As said earlier, we have already done that.
But it didn't change anything : Whenever you click at a Box, its content is shown always AFTER the frontpage module, i.e. in the MIDDLE of the screen, (See above)..
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You can also move the front page module to an other module position in order for the normal content to be first in the page.
See in which module positions you have set the modules to be displayed... When you change the order, you change the order of the modules that belong to the same position. Which position is being displayed first is set in your template's index.php file (function mosLoadModules).
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As said earlier, we have already done that.
But it didn't change anything : Whenever you click at a Box, its content is shown always AFTER the frontpage module, i.e. in the MIDDLE of the screen, (See above)..
what box .. content or what ever is this... you trying to list before frontpage module?(any content?)
you have your frontpage module listed on all pages...right? is that wanted? i have asked you why you assign it on all pages ... well frontpage module is designed to appear and be practical only in frontpage...
but this is not a rule.... there are plenty of solution...and ways to use it!
but first make clear what you want.....
if want frontpage to apear on all pages and need to change position to list bellow main content you need a new module-position(if not exist) bellow content(mos mainbody)
if want first page as is and all other to list module frontpage bellow content then most probably(if you haven't patched it) need to duplicate and modify as above your template
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I believe topic starter means '' newsflash | (newsflash) ''. As this is the first content reciever or something like that it is not connected to any modules. In the sample template mosMainBody stands under the mosLoads, so i think the only option is to transfer mosMainBody above all frontpage modules.
I is quite odd, because I had the same problem and had to look for a long time before I saw my problem. So please correct me if I am wrong, but I think thats it.
Btw, I find it very strange that Elxis is less popular than other cms like jaws and modx. I have tried them all but this is by far the best one! Oh, this is my first post and with it hello to everyone!
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....Everything can be parametrized. ....You should also change the template and not use the sample one. You should set the modules to be displayed wherever you like. Every module has parameters. Edit the module to set if you wish titles to be displayed as links, etc.
In the frontpage the "frontpage" module is being displayed by default. You can change that. You can also move the front page module to an other module position in order for the normal content to be first in the page......
You can also move the front page module to an other module position in order for the normal content to be first in the page.
See in which module positions you have set the modules to be displayed...
When you change the order, you change the order of the modules that belong to the same position.
Which position is being displayed first is set in your template's index.php file (function mosLoadModules).
I believe topic starter means '' newsflash | (newsflash) ''. As this is the first content reciever or something like that it is not connected to any modules.
In the sample template mosMainBody stands under the mosLoads, so i think the only option is to transfer mosMainBody above all frontpage modules.
I is quite odd, because I had the same problem and had to look for a long time before I saw my problem. So please correct me if I am wrong, but I think thats it.....
Reminder : As already said (see above) readers must be able to click on any "Newsflash" in one of the boxes, and afterwards see its content clearly displayed at the Top of the page which opens, (and not only in the middle, or at the end, after the usual series of Newsflashes' boxes).
On what you said : Here is the full, exact content of the "index.php" file in "template", that you indicated (see above), about "mosLoad", "mosMainbody", etc. (on Elxis 2008.0, octo).
=> What exactly should be changed, and how ?
<?php
/**
* @ Version: $Id: index.php 1878 2008-01-25 21:26:29Z datahell $
* @ Copyright: Copyright (C) 2006-2008 Elxis.org. All rights reserved.
* @ Package: Elxis
* @ Subpackage: Templates / Okto
* @ Author: Ioannis Sannos (datahell)
* @ URL: https://www.elxis.org
* @ Email: datahell@elxis.org
* @ License: http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html GNU/GPL
* Elxis CMS is a Free Software
* Okto is a template for Elxis CMS generation 2008 created by Ioannis Sannos (Elxis Team).
*/
defined( '_VALID_MOS' ) or die( 'Direct Access to this location is not allowed.' );
$iso = explode( '=', _ISO );
echo '<?xml version="1.0" encoding="'.$iso[1].'"?' .'>'._LEND;
?>
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" lang="<?php echo _LANGUAGE; ?>" xml:lang="<?php echo _LANGUAGE; ?>"<?php echo (_GEM_RTL) ? ' dir="rtl"' : ''; ?>>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; <?php echo _ISO; ?>" />
<?php mosShowHead(); ?>
<link href="<?php echo $mosConfig_live_site; ?>/templates/<?php echo $mainframe->getTemplate(); ?>/css/template_css<?php echo (_GEM_RTL) ? '-rtl' : ''; ?>.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" media="all" />
<?php if ( $my->id ) { initEditor(); } ?>
</head>
<body>
<div id="container">
<div id="mainwrap">
<div id="oktoheader">
<div id="headright">
<!-- module Search loaded without template position -->
<?php elxLoadModule('mod_search', -2); ?>
<!-- module Language loaded without template position -->
<?php elxLoadModule('mod_language', -2); ?>
</div>
</div>
<?php if (mosCountModules('top') > 0) { ?>
<!-- top menu -->
<div class="navigation">
<?php mosLoadModules('top', -2); ?>
</div>
<?php } ?>
<!-- pathway -->
<div class="pathway">
<?php mospathway(); ?>
</div>
<div id="main-body">
<div id="sitecontent">
<?php if (mosCountModules('header') > 0) { ?>
<div id="position_top">
<?php mosLoadModules('header', -2); ?>
</div>
<?php } ?>
<?php
if (mosCountModules('user1') >= 1 OR mosCountModules('user2') >= 1 ) {
?>
<div id="content_top_wrapper">
<div id="content_user1">
<?php mosLoadModules('user1', -2); ?>
</div>
<div id="content_user2">
<?php mosLoadModules('user2', -2); ?>
</div>
</div>
<?php
}
?>
<div class="inside">
<?php mosMainBody(); ?>
</div>
</div>
<div id="leftcolumn">
<div class="inside-col">
<?php mosLoadModules('left', -2); ?>
<?php mosLoadModules('user3', -2); ?>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div id="rightcolumn">
<div class="inside-col">
<?php mosLoadModules('newsflash', -2); ?>
<?php mosLoadModules('banner', -2); ?>
<?php mosLoadModules('right', -2); ?>
</div>
</div>
<div class="clear"></div>
</div>
<div align="center">
<?php include_once( $mosConfig_absolute_path.'/includes/footer.php'); ?>
</div>
</div>
</body>
</html>
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....what box .. content or what ever is this... you trying to list before frontpage module?(any content?)
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but first make clear what you want.....
if want frontpage to apear on all pages and need to change position to list bellow main content, you need a new module-position (if not exist) bellow content(mos mainbody)
if want first page as is, and all other to list module frontpage bellow content, then most probably(if you haven't patched it) need to duplicate and modify as above your template
As already said (see above) readers must be able to click on any "Newsflash" in one of the boxes, and afterwards see its content clearly displayed at the Top of the page which opens. (Not only in the middle, or at the end, after the usual series of Newsflashes' boxes).
=> What exactly should be changed, and how ?
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<div id="main-body">
<div id="sitecontent">
<?php if (mosCountModules('header') > 0) { ?>
<div id="position_top">
<?php mosLoadModules('header', -2); ?>
</div>
<?php } ?>
<?php
if (mosCountModules('user1') >= 1 OR mosCountModules('user2') >= 1 ) {
?>
<div id="content_top_wrapper">
<div id="content_user1">
<?php mosLoadModules('user1', -2); ?>
</div>
<div id="content_user2">
<?php mosLoadModules('user2', -2); ?>
</div>
</div>
<?php
}
?>
<div class="inside">
<?php mosMainBody(); ?>
<?php mosLoadModules('inset', -2); ?>
</div>
</div>
add the red line exactly where you see it here...
then assign the frontpage-module to this possition (inset).. to any - some - or all pages
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... You can also move the front page module to an other module position in order for the normal content to be first in the page. See in which module positions you have set the modules to be displayed... When you change the order, you change the order of the modules that belong to the same position. Which position is being displayed first is set in your template's index.php file (function mosLoadModules). ..
... As already said ....readers must be able to click on any "Newsflash" in one of the boxes, and afterwards see its content clearly displayed at the Top of the page which opens. (Not only in the middle, or at the end, after the usual series of Newsflashes' boxes).
=> What exactly should be changed, and how ?
<div id="main-body">
<div id="sitecontent">
<?php if (mosCountModules('header') > 0) { ?>
<div id="position_top">
<?php mosLoadModules('header', -2); ?>
</div>
<?php } ?>
<?php
if (mosCountModules('user1') >= 1 OR mosCountModules('user2') >= 1 ) {
?>
<div id="content_top_wrapper">
<div id="content_user1">
<?php mosLoadModules('user1', -2); ?>
</div>
<div id="content_user2">
<?php mosLoadModules('user2', -2); ?>
</div>
</div>
<?php
}
?>
<div class="inside">
<?php mosMainBody(); ?>
<?php mosLoadModules('inset', -2); ?>
</div>
</div>
add the red line exactly where you see it here...
then assign the frontpage-module to this possition (inset).. to any - some - or all pages.
We did as you said, but it does NOT solve the problem.
It only turns-it the ...other way round :
- Instead of having "Frontpage" Module AWAYS UP (as before : see above), now, it has it ALWAYS DOWN (after the content) !.....
But, as already said (see above), what is needed is :
a) Initially, to see the Frontpage Module (with its small boxes) at the Top of the 1st page,
(followed by other, full Content texts, under it).
b) Afterwards, when "readers click at one of the boxes", then, they should become "able to see its Full Content displayed at the Top of the New Page which Opens.
(Not only in the middle, or at the end, after the boxes)".
It's the most Simple and Natural thing to do.
Normally, it should have been prepared at ELxis' default set-up, (or clearly explain how it can be done, fex. in FAQs), without people needing to waste so much precious Time !..
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as i told in previous mesg.
then assign the frontpage-module to this possition (inset).. to any - some - or all pages.
what pages want to show the frontpage_mod to the top? assigned it to>>>>header-position
what pages want to show the frontpage_mod to the bottom? assigned it to>>>>inset-position
what pages want NOT to show the frontpage_mod ? just unpablish at those pages
- ctrl+click to select multiple pages at once. at frontpage_mod configuration page
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edit:
- you have to dublicate frontpage_mod to be able to use it in two positions ... BUT DO NOT ever PUBLISH both together at the SAME PAGE
it is easy ... but you make it hard.
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as i told in previous mesg. : then assign the frontpage-module to this possition (inset).. to any - some - or all pages.
[ a ] what pages want to show the frontpage_mod to the top? assigned it to>>>>header-position
[ b ] what pages want to show the frontpage_mod to the bottom? assigned it to>>>>inset-position
[ c ] what pages want NOT to show the frontpage_mod ? just unpablish it
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it is easy ...
How can this be done ?
[ a] is already set, with the "Frontpage Module" being "assigned to Header position" for the "MainMenu", "Home", initial Page. => There it goes at the Top.
But for the [ b ] and/or [ c] possibilities, i.e. for the "Pages which open to see the full Content" of a News item, "when readers click on a small box" (Comp. above), it's NOT clear how exactly it could be done...
In the Administration Panel, the Frontpage Module apparently does not show any clear way to do what you said :
- It only leaves ONE choice (f.ex. for the "MainMenu Home", initial page, or for the "MainMenu FAQs", or for the "TopMenu" "Home", initial page, etc), to be associated with a "Header" or, on the contrary, with the "inset" "position".
=> How could we do differend assignements of the Frontpage Module to differend Pages, (f.ex. to the various "Newsflashes" that readers would like to open and read) ?
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Perhaps, this might be the real issue ?
.... if want first page as is, and all other to list module frontpage bellow content; then most probably (if you haven't patched it) need to duplicate and modify as above your template
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you modified your template ( adding inset position)
so you need to duplicate mod front_page... and assign it to all other pages except frontpage(home)
see attachment on how to duplicate a module ...
But in case of frontpage_mod... be careful
Never-NEVER-nEVER-NEVER-Never-NEVER-nEVER-NEVER-Never-NEVER-nEVER-NEVER
USE THE TWO INSTANCES OF FRONTPAGE_MOD TOGETHER AT THE SAME PAGE
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...what pages want to show the frontpage_mod to the top? assigned it to>>>>header-position
what pages want to show the frontpage_mod to the bottom? assigned it to>>>>inset-position
what pages want NOT to show the frontpage_mod ? just unpablish at those pages
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edit (1) : - ctrl+click to select multiple pages at once. at frontpage_mod configuration page
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edit (2) :
- you have to dublicate frontpage_mod to be able to use it in two positions ...
BUT DO NOT ever PUBLISH both together at the SAME PAGE
it is easy ...
How can this be done ?
- We "duplicated" the Frontpage Module, as you advised now, (at Administration Panel, Site Modules, Copy)
=> But, (as already asked above) : - " How could we do differend assignements of the Frontpage Module .... to the various "Newsflashes" that readers would like to open and read" ?
In the Adminstration Panel, at the Frontpage Module, on "Pages" (at the right), there are Not Special "Mainmenu" Pages shown for the "Newsflashes" to choose for the 2nd, Frontpage Module Copy.
=> What should be done ?
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=> But, (as already asked above) : - " How could we do differend assignements of the Frontpage Module .... to the various "Newsflashes" that readers would like to open and read" ?
In the Adminstration Panel, at the Frontpage Module, on "Pages" (at the right), there are Not Special "Mainmenu" Pages shown for the "Newsflashes" to choose for the 2nd, Frontpage Module Copy.
you need at least the top level entry category link... you don't have? .... you create!
make at least one link to the category in mainmenu(or whatever menu working on) all items bellow should display the module...
Ps. this second frontpage_mod can take if you wish or need so... other configuration parameters
Ps2 suppose that you don't want to display any other link in your menu.. ok... make it ... and unpublished it... this way it will be visible for internal purposes but hidden to your template.
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=> But, (as already asked above) : - " How could we do differend assignements of the Frontpage Modules (1 + 2) .... to the various "Newsflashes" that readers would like to open and read" ? In the Adminstration Panel, at the Frontpage Module, on "Pages" (at the right), there are Not Special "Mainmenu" Pages shown for the "Newsflashes" to choose for the 2nd, Frontpage Module Copy.
you need at least the top level entry category link... you don't have? ....you create!
make at least one link to the category in mainmenu (or whatever menu working on) all items bellow should display the module.. ....
How can this be done ?
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1- administrator>>menu>>mainmenu(or whatever)...
2- right-top corner.. hit new!
3- make link to category table or blog type....
4- select the category you want!
5- save.
done!
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Astonishing, it didn't explode...
=> Fine : It Works !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.......................
Where have you been all this time, dear Ks-net ?...
I'll probably ..lose my Job by the Time wasted until now, but, at least, Elxis works now !
Thanks buddy.
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Let's resume, (even if hastily, without being complete), to help possible other Elxis' Newbies :
>>> If you want that your "Newsflashes" (or other Contents) are shown, at first, in many small boxes (fex. with thumbnail photos, a part of the text, etc) at the Top of the initial, "Home" page, (thanks to the "Frontpage" Module), and afterwards, when readers click to anyone of those boxes, to be able to Open a New Page where the Content of the selected Newsflash will appear in Full at the Top, (without having to scroll down under the other boxes),
then, you must :
1) Install the Frontpage Module once, and assign it only to the "Home", initial Mainmenu Page.
2) Copy the Frontpage Module, and assign the Copy to all other Menus and/or Pages, (except from the previous, "Home", mainmenu initial page).
3) Add to the script of "index.php" file, at your "template" (fex. "octo", or other), the short sentence about "inset" position, etc, (as shown by "Ks-net", above).
4) Create a New Page at your menu (fex. "Mainmenu"), and link it to the Categories that you want to "open" as above.
5) Ensure that the 1st Frontpage Module is placed at "Header" position (it has it, by default), and place the 2nd Frontpage Module, (its copy), at "Inset" position.
(For Practical Details on how to accomplish these Steps, see the indications given by "Ks-net" in reply to our successive questions, above).
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Afterwards, go breath fresh Oxygen up to a Mountain, a Forest, and/or at the Seaside !...
=> Simplifying suggestion : Why not install these possibilities "by default" to all Elxis' basic software, (or, at least, to the "FrontPage" Module, if possible), simply downloaded by internet ? The function obviously meets an elementary, basic need of almost everyone, (at least among those who get the "FrontPage" module).
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.... resume, ...:
>>> If you want that your "Newsflashes" (or other Contents) are shown, at first, in many small boxes (fex. with thumbnail photos, a part of the text, etc) at the Top of the initial, "Home" page, (thanks to the "Frontpage" Module), and afterwards, when readers click to anyone of those boxes, to be able to Open a New Page where the Content of the selected Newsflash will appear in Full at the Top, (without having to scroll down under the other boxes),
then, you must :
1) Install the Frontpage Module once, and assign it only to the "Home", initial Mainmenu Page.
2) Copy the Frontpage Module, and assign the Copy to all other Menus and/or Pages, (except from the previous, "Home", mainmenu initial page).
3) Add to the script of "index.php" file, at your "template" (fex. "octo", or other), the short sentence about "inset" position, etc, (as shown by "Ks-net", above).
4) Create a New Page at your menu (fex. "Mainmenu"), and link it to the Categories that you want to "open" as above.
5) Ensure that the 1st Frontpage Module is placed at "Header" position (it has it, by default), and place the 2nd Frontpage Module, (its copy), at "Inset" position.
(For Practical Details on how to accomplish these Steps, see the indications given by "Ks-net" in reply to our successive questions, above)....
>>> Or, perhaps, it might be enough just to do 1, instead of 5 steps ?
Simply : "Create a New Page at your menu (fex. "Mainmenu"), and link it to the Categories that you want to "open" as above."